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2026-09-06 Week 1 Reaction - Hail Marys, Oregon and Boise State (raw)

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:18 Dan Rubenstein, you know, Week 1 started off kinda quiet.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:23 Kind of a bunch of blowouts.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:25 We saw it on Thursday, on Friday, throughout much of the day on Saturday.

Dan Rubenstein 00:31 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:32 It's always the quiet ones, isn't it?

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:35 It's always the quiet ones that jump up and get ya.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:40 Week 1 was no different.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:42 Good evening to everybody out there.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:45 Watching at home live, whether you're on YouTube, whether you're on Twitter or X the Everything app, or if you're out there on TikTok, hello.

Dan Rubenstein 00:55 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 00:55 We will want your comments a little bit later on

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Ty Hildenbrandt 01:03 Dan Rubenstein, my God, do we have a lot to discuss tonight?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07 How are you, my good friend?

Dan Rubenstein 01:08 I'm very, very good, Ty.

Dan Rubenstein 01:17 But thanks to the the beautiful occurrences in The Big House in Michigan Stadium, thanks to a closer than expected moment or seven in Autzen Stadium in Eugene, Oregon

Dan Rubenstein 01:30 And certainly thanks to the ending of Baylor-Auburn.

Dan Rubenstein 01:32 I believe that was in Atlanta, correct?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:34 Correct.

Dan Rubenstein 01:35 Uh we do have some things to talk about.

Dan Rubenstein 01:37 We have some huge performances.

Dan Rubenstein 01:38 We have new quarterbacks, new coordinators, new head coaches, new matchups imagined all over the country.

Dan Rubenstein 01:43 I don't want to waste time.

Dan Rubenstein 01:45 with words per minute and this sort of speed run I'm going through, where should we begin Ty?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:52 I guess we should start with the Hail Mary?

Dan Rubenstein 01:56 Which one?

Dan Rubenstein 01:56 The first Hail Mary or the second one?

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:01 Michigan won in Michigan Stadium.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:03 Your final score was 13 to 12.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:06 They knocked off Western Michigan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:08 This game...

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:09 Well, we can get into what happened between the first drive from Michigan and the very last play that they won on.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:16 It was certainly not a banner offensive showing for the Michigan Wolverines.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:21 They were a heavy favorite

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:23 Going into this football game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:24 And Dan, given the way it started, Bryce Underwood 5 for 5.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:28 They march down the field.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:29 They score a touchdown.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:31 It seems as though, hey, we got an exciting new era.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:33 Kyle Whittingham, he's an adult in the room.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:36 Finally, we can breathe easy.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:38 We can build forward.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:39 And then things just kind of stalled.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:42 And then the deeper we got into it, the more interesting.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:45 It got Western Michigan is a veteran-laden team that had a really good defense a year ago, rebuilding a little bit on that side of the ball, but nonetheless had a lot of experience to build on.

Dan Rubenstein 02:52 For sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:55 It didn't seem as if they were intimidated to go into Michigan Stadium.

Ty Hildenbrandt 02:59 And before long, you and I are typing back and forth on Slack like uh maybe we should tune into this one or make this a volume game, given that we had other ones going as well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 03:10 So...

Ty Hildenbrandt 03:11 Yeah, this one definitely took on a bit of a different um feel than we expected when we previewed, did it, did it not?

Dan Rubenstein 03:18 Yeah, it you know it had that feel of the like, hey he's got a no-hitter

Dan Rubenstein 03:22 through six and two-thirds.

Dan Rubenstein 03:23 I I think we should flip over and watch, you know, Jim Gott or whoever the like ancient reference we like to make is.

Dan Rubenstein 03:30 Uh, Dennis Martinez, shout out to the Montreal Expos.

Dan Rubenstein 03:33 Uh yeah, it had that feel, right, that Michigan is not getting its act together.

Dan Rubenstein 03:37 They're not breaking out, you know, maybe a huge special teams play to set up a short field touchdown or

Dan Rubenstein 03:43 uh a big broken play pass to whoever, to Andrew Marsh or JJ Buchanan or something.

Dan Rubenstein 03:48 That never happened.

Dan Rubenstein 03:49 That was the expected thing to happen, but as you noted, Western Michigan championship program after last season, a really strong team last year in the MAC, got it done.

Dan Rubenstein 03:57 And new coach, a lot a lot new, new coordinators obviously in Ann Arbor for Michigan, but the feeling was there's so much talent there that of course the talent is going to win out.

Dan Rubenstein 04:07 The experience of this and success of this coaching staff is going to win out.

Dan Rubenstein 04:11 and I guess technically it did in the end, but this was a wild one.

Dan Rubenstein 04:17 Uh, Bryce Underwood did not look accurate, did not look comfortable, did not look like he was throwing in rhythm at all when he was sort of allowed to throw it seemed.

Dan Rubenstein 04:25 Uh they couldn't get much going on the ground with Jordan Marshall.

Dan Rubenstein 04:28 I mean it seemed at one point it was like three-and-out, three-and-out, three-and-out, four-and-out kind of thing

Dan Rubenstein 04:33 stringing together those types of drives.

Dan Rubenstein 04:35 And Western Michigan was just playing everything tough, right?

Dan Rubenstein 04:38 They they themselves were not particularly explosive on offense.

Dan Rubenstein 04:41 But even near the end of the game where you're like, all right, well now Michigan's gonna get, you know, they're gonna

Ty Hildenbrandt 04:46 Surely now, surely now

Dan Rubenstein 04:47 Maybe they've been saving a few of these plays for Oklahoma, but now they're gonna bust him out for Western Michigan.

Dan Rubenstein 04:53 Uh surely now, and they get they you know rifle off a couple of runs.

Dan Rubenstein 04:57 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 04:58 And then immediately have a Bryce Underwood fumble, completely subvert, you know, one of those drives and go to Western Michigan.

Dan Rubenstein 05:07 And a nice pass when Michigan gets the ball back to the middle of the field to JJ Buchanan, setting up what would become a Hail Mary with just a few seconds left.

Dan Rubenstein 05:16 And you can correct me if I'm wrong here, Ty, because I've got a lot of facts and figures and memories of Week 1 swirling around my cerebellum.

Dan Rubenstein 05:24 Uh he threw it out of the back of the end zone

Dan Rubenstein 05:27 From midfield in a Hail Mary attempt.

Dan Rubenstein 05:30 And at first, it was ruled the end of the game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:34 Right, so if you're watching, you gotta you gotta vision this.

Dan Rubenstein 05:35 That, yes, please.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:37 We're watching this on NBC, Noah Eagle, Todd Blackledge on the call

Dan Rubenstein 05:42 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:43 The clock goes to zero.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:45 On the broadcast, on the broadcast, from what we could see from our vantage point, it goes to zero.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:51 Noah Eagle yelling, attack of the MAC.

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:53 He was thinking you could tell he was thinking that one up long in advance because

Dan Rubenstein 05:56 Of course, of course

Ty Hildenbrandt 05:57 Let's be honest, Western Michigan had 40 minutes of possession.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:00 He had time to think up that line.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:02 He belts it out.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:04 But wait, there's more.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:05 You hear the

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:07 Ref come on to the PA system and say they are reviewing, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:11 They are reviewing at that point.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:12 The only thing they can review is is there any time left on the clock?

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:16 They show the replay several times.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:18 For us at home, the ball did not come down out of bounds until the clock was at zero.

Dan Rubenstein 06:25 Right, it hit a player at zero, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 06:27 So unless there was a different clock, and and I I guess that's our assumption at this point, there must have been a different clock than the one we saw because they decide one second is left on the clock, Dan.

Dan Rubenstein 06:42 Yeah, the only thing I can think of.

Dan Rubenstein 06:44 Because obviously the chorus ringing out of like it's rigged, it's the Big Ten, it's Michigan, they're gonna find a way to give them one more chance.

Dan Rubenstein 06:54 I can't disprove that allegation, right?

Dan Rubenstein 06:57 That's nothing that I have the power to do from the greater Chicagoland area, surrounded by Michigan people, some of whom I may be related to by marriage.

Dan Rubenstein 07:05 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 07:06 All I can tell you is I've heard NBA people talking about like zero is not actually zero sometimes.

Dan Rubenstein 07:12 I've heard NFL people talk about zero is not actual zero sometimes because there are decimals involved.

Dan Rubenstein 07:18 that perhaps the referee's clock I don't have this information in front of me.

Ty Hildenbrandt 07:21 I l I love this line of yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 07:24 I love this.

Dan Rubenstein 07:25 All I'm telling you is

Dan Rubenstein 07:26 I don't know if the official referees clock, somebody smarter than I, please weigh in, whether you're watching this on TikTok, whether you're watching this on YouTube, whether you're watching this on X the Everything app.

Dan Rubenstein 07:37 Does the referee's clock go to decimals or does it just go 3, 2, 1, 0, or under a second?

Dan Rubenstein 07:47 Perhaps were there 0.

Dan Rubenstein 07:49 68 seconds left.

Dan Rubenstein 07:51 27 seconds left.

Dan Rubenstein 07:53 It...

Dan Rubenstein 07:55 It is the only thing I can think of.

Dan Rubenstein 07:57 It is quite literally the only thing I can think of.

Dan Rubenstein 07:59 They get an extra second.

Dan Rubenstein 08:01 The the refs huddle up, football term, and give the University of Michigan an extra second at midfield

Dan Rubenstein 08:08 A second attempt to throw a Hail Mary.

Dan Rubenstein 08:11 I don't know if the plural is Hail's Mary.

Dan Rubenstein 08:13 I don't know how that works.

Dan Rubenstein 08:14 I've never had to really think about it.

Dan Rubenstein 08:16 But Bryce Underwood throws it, JJ Buchanan catches it not like on a tip, not like in a scrum.

Dan Rubenstein 08:21 He just jumps up and catches it in front of a number of Western Michigan and Michigan players

Dan Rubenstein 08:26 and lands on top of them in the end zone.

Dan Rubenstein 08:28 So there's there's no question that that was a catch that that was uh afforded to Michigan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 08:31 Oh yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 08:34 And if I may add, I understand that there's going to be a lot of controversy around whether or not they should have gotten that play.

Dan Rubenstein 08:41 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 08:41 I'll just say this, Bryce Underwood for as lousy a game as I thought he had, and for as little it seemed, that his coaching staff trusted in him to make a big throw in a key moment, although he did have one on that

Dan Rubenstein 08:49 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 08:55 game-winning drive, what amounted to the game-winning drive.

Ty Hildenbrandt 08:58 The Hail Mary from his back foot like 60 yards in the air.

Dan Rubenstein 09:03 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 09:03 Granted, you don't need to be the most accurate on a throw like that, but the fact that he had the arm strength to get it there, that was impressive.

Ty Hildenbrandt 09:10 That part of it was impressive.

Dan Rubenstein 09:10 Well let's be clear, the arm strength was clear when he threw it out of the back of the end zone.

Dan Rubenstein 09:16 Also clear that he did not have the accuracy on the Hail Mary that we are positive happened during the duration of the game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 09:22 Everything just needs to be a fadeaway, and then we're good.

Dan Rubenstein 09:25 That was not accurate.

Dan Rubenstein 09:26 Okay, he did not throw it to the yellow jerseys.

Dan Rubenstein 09:29 Um but

Dan Rubenstein 09:32 I I I don't know what to say.

Dan Rubenstein 09:33 I if you're literally a college football fan that's a fan of any other team other than Michigan, you're looking this you're looking at this moment with

Dan Rubenstein 09:44 Cocked eyebrows at an angle that you've never had them before.

Dan Rubenstein 09:47 And I I get it.

Dan Rubenstein 09:49 I I don't have a rebuttal beyond maybe it was 0.

Dan Rubenstein 09:52 34 seconds that was that was left on the clock.

Dan Rubenstein 09:54 That's all I have.

Dan Rubenstein 09:55 That's liter like I I am very eager for an explanation, as I'm sure there will be one coming, or or has already come via like a pool reporter speaking to the ref uh at at the game.

Dan Rubenstein 10:05 But otherwise

Dan Rubenstein 10:07 Bonkers, completely bonkers way to finish out that game.

Dan Rubenstein 10:11 A game Michigan 100%, 7,000% did not earn.

Dan Rubenstein 10:17 They absolutely did not earn that game.

Dan Rubenstein 10:20 They won it, and sometimes you win games that you don't earn.

Dan Rubenstein 10:23 That's just sports.

Dan Rubenstein 10:23 That's football.

Dan Rubenstein 10:24 That's any sport.

Dan Rubenstein 10:25 But...

Dan Rubenstein 10:26 My God, what a dud of a game.

Dan Rubenstein 10:28 And by the way, afterwards, Kyle Whittingham, I don't know if you watched him, because Michigan fans, and let's level set here, rushed the field after beating Western Michigan.

Dan Rubenstein 10:38 A directional Michigan school, very good one.

Dan Rubenstein 10:41 Um, Kyle Whittingham in the interview after the game was not excited.

Ty Hildenbrandt 10:46 He was definitely not.

Dan Rubenstein 10:47 He was

Ty Hildenbrandt 10:47 He was he was like the concerned father after the road trip.

Dan Rubenstein 10:52 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 10:53 We made it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 10:55 To the hotel, but we've got some work to do before we can enjoy this vacation.

Dan Rubenstein 10:59 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 11:00 It's uh it was it was a lot we've got we've got a lot of work to do.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:04 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 11:04 It was

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:04 Hushed revered tones, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:06 Like he he knows.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:07 He knows what's going on.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:08 This is not a good showing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:10 They've got Oklahoma next week, which um

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:15 Look, we could talk about that game in due course, but um they will pose a significantly greater challenge.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:23 especially on defense than what we saw from Western Michigan and regular Michigan just scored 13 points.

Dan Rubenstein 11:31 Regular Michigan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:32 Well, you know

Dan Rubenstein 11:34 It was a very regular Michigan evening tonight, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:37 Indeed, it was.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:38 Your final score was 13 to 12.

Dan Rubenstein 11:38 Woo!

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:40 We're gonna talk a little bit later on in this episode.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:44 about what it means within the context of our AP Top 25 ballot, which we need to submit after this week of games.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:50 We do vote in the poll.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:52 We're not just going to talk about Michigan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:54 We're going to talk about some other teams that we see rising, that we see falling.

Ty Hildenbrandt 11:57 We would encourage everyone who is watching this live.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:00 Please let us know who we should move up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:02 who we should move down when we get to that section of the show, we'll definitely want to see some of your comments and react accordingly.

Dan Rubenstein 12:10 Uh not not sure I'm gonna have Michigan in my top twenty-five, but we'll talk about it soon.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:14 We'll talk about it soon.

Dan Rubenstein 12:16 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:16 Another game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:17 Another game that probably has or could have some AP Top 25 ramifications.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:23 Your Oregon Ducks 34.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:26 The Boise State Broncos 27.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:29 Everyone, everyone, and we already got calls about this, and some of them I put into Reverbs, which we'll play here in a little bit.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:38 Everyone sees this through the lens of Oregon having a near miss.

Dan Rubenstein 12:42 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:44 It was one of the better games of the day, though.

Dan Rubenstein 12:44 Fair.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:47 It ended up being that way.

Ty Hildenbrandt 12:49 Now, I understand that might be a matter of perspective, Dan Rubenstein, Oregon grad, but for those of us out here who didn't really have a dog in the fight, it ended up being a pretty good game with a solid ending.

Ty Hildenbrandt 13:00 How did we feel about this one as an Oregon fan?

Ty Hildenbrandt 13:03 What was your state of mind watching this?

Ty Hildenbrandt 13:06 What jumped out to you the most watching it really from both sides?

Ty Hildenbrandt 13:10 Like I can speak to the Boise side because that was what I was most focused on, but certainly from the Oregon side, you're probably more attuned to, you know, what you saw versus expectations.

Dan Rubenstein 13:19 Yeah, you you want to know what was going through my brain?

Dan Rubenstein 13:21 Here it is.

Dan Rubenstein 13:22 That was it.

Dan Rubenstein 13:23 That was for most of especially uh the first half and moments where Oregon had the ability to distance themselves a little bit from Boise State as an Oregon human, I was feeling

Dan Rubenstein 13:36 Yeah, that was just what was coursing through my brain.

Dan Rubenstein 13:40 Um, what else?

Dan Rubenstein 13:41 Uh here's what I was thinking in in actuality.

Dan Rubenstein 13:44 I was thinking Oregon looked quite sloppy.

Dan Rubenstein 13:46 I thought...

Dan Rubenstein 13:47 Boise was ready to play, especially on defense.

Dan Rubenstein 13:50 Oregon was kind of farting around a little bit on offense.

Dan Rubenstein 13:54 They weren't going directly at Boise.

Dan Rubenstein 13:56 They were...

Dan Rubenstein 13:56 sort of pecking at the perimeter of the Boise defense and trying to test like getting Evan Stewart or Dakorien Moore, guys like that, in one-on-one matchups that Boise was making very solid

Dan Rubenstein 14:08 uh open-field tackles.

Dan Rubenstein 14:10 They were just taking care of business defensively.

Dan Rubenstein 14:12 Uh, Oregon when they threw down field, when they decided to run a little with a little bit more power with Jordon Davison, they had a lot more success

Dan Rubenstein 14:21 Uh, I thought Dante Moore looked a little bit off. He was a little bit late. He was a little bit, uh, rusty, it seemed, with his accuracy.

Dan Rubenstein 14:27 It's game one

Dan Rubenstein 14:28 Um you're gonna expect slop from everybody at times.

Dan Rubenstein 14:31 You're gonna expect rust from basically everybody, I get maybe other than Sam Leavitt's legs, and we'll get there.

Dan Rubenstein 14:37 But...

Dan Rubenstein 14:38 I I saw an Oregon team on defense that had some trouble in coverage.

Dan Rubenstein 14:42 They were not good in the red zone.

Dan Rubenstein 14:44 And Boise for

Dan Rubenstein 14:46 For as much as you can point to the stats that Oregon outperformed them in terms of yardage, in terms of making big plays on defense, Boise was opportunistic.

Dan Rubenstein 14:54 Boise kept finding ways to convert first downs or convert third downs into first downs, fourth downs, actually more than third more than third.

Dan Rubenstein 15:03 They were converting fourth downs.

Dan Rubenstein 15:04 They were good in the red zone.

Dan Rubenstein 15:05 I'm repeating myself now

Dan Rubenstein 15:07 Because Boise was repeating themselves.

Dan Rubenstein 15:09 And it was a really nice uh effort from Boise.

Dan Rubenstein 15:15 It was a scary effort from Boise if you're an Oregon fan.

Dan Rubenstein 15:17 Oregon got its act together.

Dan Rubenstein 15:19 They were throwing downfield to Evan Stewart.

Dan Rubenstein 15:21 They had a a sensational play to Dakorien Moore.

Dan Rubenstein 15:23 Uh, Jordon Davison had an explosive run.

Dan Rubenstein 15:26 Uh and then when Boise was forced to throw the ball at the end of the game, when time got tight.

Dan Rubenstein 15:32 Uh, Oregon's defensive line really did overwhelm Boise up front.

Dan Rubenstein 15:35 There were a couple misscalls in either direction.

Dan Rubenstein 15:38 Boise sort of invaded Evan Stewart's space on a punt return.

Dan Rubenstein 15:42 And uh Nasir Wyatt, an edge rusher for Oregon, definitely had hands to the face and and roughed the passer uh on Maddox Madsen late in the game.

Dan Rubenstein 15:51 But by and large, as an Oregon person, as you know, a neutral observer and and as much as I can be one, winning is better than losing.

Dan Rubenstein 15:58 Oregon didn't lose.

Dan Rubenstein 15:59 Oregon is one and oh.

Dan Rubenstein 16:00 Oregon moves on to an Oklahoma State team that I think is gonna put up less of a fight, but we'll see.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:04 Oh my gosh, we'll get to that.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:06 Yeah, we'll get to that one.

Dan Rubenstein 16:07 I just I uh I I I thought you could trace a lot of it to just Russ.

Dan Rubenstein 16:12 I think the offensive line, it's a lot of new bodies on the offensive line that they were getting used to.

Dan Rubenstein 16:16 Just...

Dan Rubenstein 16:17 It was it felt very arrhythmic and uh Oregon just did not look like a national title contender in Week 1, but many of the national title contenders

Dan Rubenstein 16:27 did not play teams anywhere near as good as I think Boise State will be this year.

Dan Rubenstein 16:31 So we'll see.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:32 I came away really impressed with Boise State, to be honest with you.

Dan Rubenstein 16:35 Okay.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:35 I mean, not the least of which is the fact that they were playing in Autzen Stadium

Dan Rubenstein 16:38 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:38 I know this is a matchup that has some history and Boise has historically, at least in moments, played Oregon pretty well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:46 But I did not see this coming simply because as we've alluded time and again when we did our previews, I thought Oregon, I still think

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:54 To a degree, Oregon's got one of, if not the best rosters in all of college football.

Dan Rubenstein 16:59 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 16:59 It's a very, very good team.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:00 This was a close game against another good team.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:03 No, I didn't see this one coming.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:04 Oregon was a 24 and a half point favorite.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:06 And so my theory of the case going into this one was that Oregon, at least defensively in their front seven, is superior.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:15 They will contain whatever ground assault.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:17 Boise tries to put out there because I think that is Boise's MO this season.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:24 That is what they're gonna try to do.

Dan Rubenstein 17:24 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:25 That's what they're best at.

Dan Rubenstein 17:26 And Boise did not have those explosive plays like they did a couple years ago with Ashton Jeanty on the ground.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:31 They didn't, they didn't.

Dan Rubenstein 17:32 Oregon held them down on the ground for the most part.

Dan Rubenstein 17:34 You know, it's second and two and they're getting three yards.

Dan Rubenstein 17:36 You know, it's third and one, they're getting two, right?

Dan Rubenstein 17:38 They're doing enough.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:39 But that being said, Maddox Madsen when he did have an opportunity to throw, not when the game was solely reliant on him throwing late, to your point.

Dan Rubenstein 17:48 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:48 But I would say through the first three quarters of that game, when they were trying to mix things up a lot, they were finding open

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:56 guys running throughout that secondary.

Dan Rubenstein 17:57 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 17:58 Maddox Madsen was accurate.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:00 He's not necessarily known for having a laser arm, but he certainly knows the system as a veteran player.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:06 And there was a good chunk of this game just watching from here where I had to fight the urge to say that Oregon was stuck in the mud.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:14 Like I know they kind of were, but it almost felt to me as if these teams were even for a good chunk of this game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:19 And certainly if you look at the statistics, I mean there there are plenty of them that would indicate as much.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:24 So I don't know.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:25 I came away more impressed, I think, with Boise State than I was alarmed by Oregon

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:31 There's definitely some element of it being Week 1 that we have to factor in.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:35 I do think both teams will get better, but um as somebody who was a boise skeptic to a degree,

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:42 coming into this game in this season, I thought they acquitted themselves incredibly well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:47 And believe me, as we now get deeper into the season now that we're off and running and we have to have a conversation at some point about G6 playoff contenders.

Ty Hildenbrandt 18:57 Boise State's probably gonna bubble to the surface of that one.

Dan Rubenstein 19:00 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:00 Like I didn't have them all the way at the top, but I think given at least this body of work here, provided there aren't injuries and things that go down throughout the course of the year.

Dan Rubenstein 19:08 Buddy, we're starting with two teams in Western Michigan now and Boise State.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:12 No.

Dan Rubenstein 19:13 Do you know who Boise State plays next week?

Dan Rubenstein 19:15 I think they do play Western Michigan, do they not?

Dan Rubenstein 19:18 I I'll I'll confirm this, but this is some some part of my memory is telling me that this is the case.

Dan Rubenstein 19:24 So yes, uh a nice feather in the mid-major G6 cap right now

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:28 The other close game, and then I want to talk through things that we're impressed about.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:33 I want to get to those comments from the Verballerhood, who we should move up, who we should move down.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:38 We do have reverbs, which we're going to play here in just a few moments.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:42 But first we need to talk about Auburn winning by one.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:45 By stopping Baylor on a two-point conversion.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:48 17 to 16 was your final score.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:52 Definitely a conversation that needs to be had about both these offenses.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:56 Okay.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:57 Those are table stakes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 19:58 We know this.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:00 But both defenses.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:04 Both defenses, I thought, came to play.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:07 And I was most impressed on the Baylor side, if I'm being real with you

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:12 The offense was kind of a hot mess, really on both sides.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:16 But Baylor played defense the way they played defense against, granted, an Auburn team with a lot of new players and new coach.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:23 But um wasn't all that long ago that this Baylor defense was a crazy liability.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:28 They could still be a liability this season.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:31 It's only Week 1, and we don't know what we have with Auburn.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:34 But to hold Auburn to seventeen points and keep the offense in a game in which the offense sort of sputtered against an Auburn defense

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:42 I came away impressed on that side of it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:45 Um, not always impressed with some of the decision making from Dave Aranda.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:49 There are plenty of other things I think we can split hairs over on the Baylor side.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:53 And for sure, Auburn was not a perfect squad either.

Ty Hildenbrandt 20:57 But I will choose to look at the positive here and not as much the quarterback play and just say that at least defensively this was a really interesting matchup.

Dan Rubenstein 21:07 Yeah, I mean the the novel thing is what Baylor was able to do up front.

Dan Rubenstein 21:11 It was

Dan Rubenstein 21:12 Something like and this is something this is I'm giving away the game a little bit, but this is on my like impressed by list because it was so novel.

Dan Rubenstein 21:18 Baylor with I think was eleven tackles

Dan Rubenstein 21:20 for loss and five sacks on Byrum Brown also picked him off three times.

Dan Rubenstein 21:24 This is not this is like Baylor fans not knowing what to do with their hands.

Dan Rubenstein 21:27 This is very new.

Dan Rubenstein 21:29 for recent Baylor memories, that Baylor's defense was the thing that kept them in the game and was the positive takeaway.

Dan Rubenstein 21:37 And so

Dan Rubenstein 21:38 Yeah, it was a fun back and forth.

Dan Rubenstein 21:40 Uh, I thought there were terrific moments from both of these offenses.

Dan Rubenstein 21:44 Moments, right?

Dan Rubenstein 21:45 Some Auburn speed especially on the ground.

Dan Rubenstein 21:48 Uh was it it's Cobb, right?

Dan Rubenstein 21:49 For Jeremiah Cobb for Auburn.

Ty Hildenbrandt 21:49 Jeremiah Cobb, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 21:51 Yeah, yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 21:51 Um had some nice moments.

Dan Rubenstein 21:53 Obviously, DJ Lagway has moments where you are just beside yourself if you're a Baylor fan.

Dan Rubenstein 22:01 the the decision making, the hurtling for no reason while running horizontally to get to the edge and fumbling the ball, some just

Dan Rubenstein 22:10 Awful interception thinking and and pass coverage thoughts from DJ Lagway.

Dan Rubenstein 22:16 Uh he short armed a a very obvious and makeable touchdown pass.

Dan Rubenstein 22:22 uh for no reason, like a fadeaway moment for for DJ Lagway.

Dan Rubenstein 22:26 And then he also has incredibly like effortless excellence that he can display on the field at any time.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:34 It's gotta be maddening to be a Baylor fan to watch this.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:38 And not just this season, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:41 This has been an odyssey of sorts for the Baylor fandom out there.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:45 But the duality of DJ Lagway is going to drive them nuts this year.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:49 And I'm worried for some of the Baylor fans of my life.

Dan Rubenstein 22:49 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:52 Because you're right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:54 The best of DJ Lagway is incredible.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:56 It's a beautiful dime.

Ty Hildenbrandt 22:58 It's a layered throw that doesn't look as if it should be completed.

Dan Rubenstein 23:01 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:02 The worst?

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:03 Did you see what he was doing with like the weird overhand flips?

Dan Rubenstein 23:07 Yes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:08 Well, what is that?

Dan Rubenstein 23:09 I have no c no clue.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:09 It's like he's trying to turn a double play?

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:11 Like what

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:12 He did it at least three times, maybe four, where it's it's it's almost like the Tebow jump throw

Dan Rubenstein 23:19 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:20 Right, where he kind of Tim Tebow and and many have done it since, but run towards the line and then sort of jump up and flick it over the line to an offensive lineman or a tight end.

Dan Rubenstein 23:30 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:30 It's almost

Dan Rubenstein 23:30 It's his version of the pop pass type thing.

Dan Rubenstein 23:33 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:33 Yeah, but it uh he he is like shooting a foul shot with the ball, and he tried it a couple times, at least two occasions he sailed it over the guy's head.

Dan Rubenstein 23:43 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:43 I couldn't figure out what the hell he was doing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:45 He did it a bunch of times.

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:47 There were plenty of other instances where he was either inaccurate or seemed like he was just uh you know, had a case of the happy legs back in the pocket

Ty Hildenbrandt 23:56 I I felt he looked worse to me than I remember from him at Florida.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:01 And I don't know if it was just the moment.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:03 I don't know if it's a new system.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:04 I I don't know what it is.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:06 Maybe there are nerves with him going back to a school where he's obviously got a lot of tradition in his family.

Dan Rubenstein 24:11 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:12 Beats me.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:13 But there was that side of this game that definitely was notable.

Dan Rubenstein 24:15 Look, maybe he was hurt, man.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:17 Maybe it was hurt.

Dan Rubenstein 24:17 Maybe he maybe he was uh he was just off and couldn't plant and was doing whatever he could to try and get the ball downfield

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:18 I don't know.

Dan Rubenstein 24:25 But at times later in the game, he was stepping into throws.

Dan Rubenstein 24:30 At times later in the game, I mean he was he was arming them too.

Dan Rubenstein 24:33 And obviously the I

Dan Rubenstein 24:35 I'm totally good with them going for two, by the way.

Dan Rubenstein 24:37 I'm fast forwarding here.

Dan Rubenstein 24:39 But um on that last throw, like it was it was an accuracy thing.

Dan Rubenstein 24:44 It it didn't seem to be a mechanics thing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:45 No on the last throw.

Dan Rubenstein 24:46 He threw the ball behind him, but yeah

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:47 Yeah, on the two point conversion if he leads his receiver by an extra foot.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:52 They win the game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:54 They win the game 18-17.

Ty Hildenbrandt 24:56 But he just threw it a little bit behind, and that was really, I thought, emblematic of what we saw from DJ.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:01 for the majority of this game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:03 He was just a tick off that could improve, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:05 The speed of the game certainly in practice is different than in a game.

Dan Rubenstein 25:06 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:09 But man, that that definitely came back to bite him.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:12 The other side of this too, I you know, Byrum Brown shouldn't get out of this without a quick mention as well.

Dan Rubenstein 25:17 He should knock it out unscathed.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:18 Because he had three picks.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:20 I thought he looked equally awful.

Dan Rubenstein 25:22 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:23 His delivery is gonna take some getting used to.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:25 I kept thinking to myself, I know there have been clips floating around on social media.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:29 They did like those robot Olympics over in China.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:31 Do you see those where like they'd crash into walls and the sparks would go up

Dan Rubenstein 25:32 I have seen those.

Dan Rubenstein 25:34 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:36 His delivery looks like they're trying to teach a robot how to throw a football.

Dan Rubenstein 25:39 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 25:40 Super impressive for a robot

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:42 Which would be great for a robot, but maybe not for an FBS quarterback.

Dan Rubenstein 25:44 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 25:47 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:47 Um...

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:48 I thought he looked bad too.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:50 This was both uh both sides have a lot to work on on the offensive side of the ball here.

Ty Hildenbrandt 25:54 But at least defensively both kept him in the game and congratulations to Alex Golesh, who gets his first win as Auburn head coach.

Dan Rubenstein 26:02 And to be fair to both of these teams, we are talking about two new quarterbacks for these teams.

Dan Rubenstein 26:10 We are talking about

Dan Rubenstein 26:11 uh new at least offensive uh pieces for baylor getting in rhythm together we are talking about uh new head coach for baylor we're talking about an auburn offensive line that obviously needs more time to gel

Dan Rubenstein 26:25 We're talking about more receivers who are new to Auburn, obviously not new to this system.

Dan Rubenstein 26:29 And we're talking about playing a game on a neutral field in an NFL dome.

Dan Rubenstein 26:34 To be fair, when we say things like

Dan Rubenstein 26:37 You get better between weeks one and two.

Dan Rubenstein 26:40 Here's the Week 1 part of it, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 26:42 Yeah, yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 26:42 This is the egg you lay, and then you see what hatches over the course of the season.

Dan Rubenstein 26:48 And I think we will have beautiful hatchlings at times for Auburn and for Baylor.

Dan Rubenstein 26:55 Like everybody

Dan Rubenstein 26:57 Pretty much everybody has earned grace at this point to say, like, look, you're not gonna look like what you're finally going to look like, come, you know, Thanksgiving, come a Halloween, whatever.

Dan Rubenstein 27:09 But yes, there there were turds on display in 4K in this game.

Dan Rubenstein 27:16 They will here, here you go.

Ty Hildenbrandt 27:18 There it is.

Ty Hildenbrandt 27:18 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 27:18 They will lessen.

Dan Rubenstein 27:20 The stink will lessen.

Dan Rubenstein 27:21 Byrum Brown will get better at reading pressures and coverages and whatever.

Dan Rubenstein 27:26 Uh, DJ Lagway will have fewer I'm not gonna say he's going to be devoid of those moments.

Dan Rubenstein 27:31 He will have fewer as he gets more comfortable

Dan Rubenstein 27:34 And I think it's only fair to look at the positives for both of these teams.

Dan Rubenstein 27:38 Auburn won this game.

Dan Rubenstein 27:39 Winning's better than losing.

Dan Rubenstein 27:41 Alex Golesh is 1-0 as Auburn's head coach.

Dan Rubenstein 27:43 Feels a lot better than 0-1.

Dan Rubenstein 27:45 Good for Auburn.

Dan Rubenstein 27:46 Good for Baylor for looking like they might might be a more complete team.

Dan Rubenstein 27:50 Can't and I come away thinking I can't wait to watch more of Auburn.

Dan Rubenstein 27:54 Hopefully, not look like this

Dan Rubenstein 27:55 Can't wait to watch more of Baylor.

Dan Rubenstein 27:57 Hopefully not look like this on offense, but if they're looking like this on defense more or less, Baylor becomes a much more entertaining, watchable team this year.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:05 I will say it again, and then we're gonna move on.

Dan Rubenstein 28:08 Please.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:09 Even though both of these teams were unranked, there were real stakes on this game

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:13 There were stakes on the Auburn side because Auburn was coming off five years of two coaches that didn't do anything.

Dan Rubenstein 28:14 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:20 New guy in charge, new era, excitement, brought his team with him or a good chunk of his team with him from USF.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:26 There were expectations.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:28 On the Baylor side, it's now or never.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:30 It's now or never.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:31 They poured resources into their defense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:33 They hired a new defensive coordinator.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:34 Dave Aranda's a defensive mind, at least he was.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:39 That side of the ball was a tire fire a year ago.

Dan Rubenstein 28:40 He still is, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:42 And so they needed to get better.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:43 I thought they at least showed out on that side, but um

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:46 For sure, on offense, they're going to need some work.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:49 It's it's sort of like bending your mind into a pretzel because uh Baylor's been pretty good on offense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:54 They just weren't in this game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:56 They still could be, who knows?

Ty Hildenbrandt 28:57 But um 17-16.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:00 Was your final Dan Rubenstein?

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:02 All right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:03 Before we go any further, again, later on this episode, want to hear from everyone out there who is watching live.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:09 Who should we move up?

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:10 Who should we move down?

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:12 Let us know in the comments.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:14 We will get to that in just a little bit, Dan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:17 I want to ask you a very important question, okay?

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:23 Let's talk through who impressed us.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:27 Who impressed us in Week 1?

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:29 We're not all doom and gloom.

Dan Rubenstein 29:29 Was that was that Shania Twain being like held hostage and speaking through one of those like uh mysterious

Dan Rubenstein 29:37 witness protection voices, and if so, great.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:40 It sounds a little bit like the guy from Saw, the bad guy in Saw.

Dan Rubenstein 29:43 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:44 But that version of Shania.

Dan Rubenstein 29:45 Well that fits.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:46 Maybe he's in the Shania.

Dan Rubenstein 29:46 Yeah, well, we're talking about what we saw.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:47 I don't know.

Dan Rubenstein 29:50 Continue. Sorry.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:52 Here's what impressed me the most.

Dan Rubenstein 29:54 Okay.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:55 I've got a list of things for you.

Ty Hildenbrandt 29:57 The first has to be Darian Mensah and Malachi Toney in that connection that we saw earlier in the week.

Dan Rubenstein 30:01 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:03 I mean, are you kidding me?

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:05 Are you kidding me?

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:06 Now I'm not gonna act like this was the stiffest of competition.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:10 We know that.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:12 Miami won 45-6 over Stanford.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:16 Darian Mensah missed three pass attempts the entire game, threw for over 400 yards and five touchdowns.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:23 Malachi Toney, 12 catches.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:26 234 yards and three of those touchdowns.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:30 You and I spoke earlier on the phone.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:32 I'm convinced the only reason they threw to other receivers on the Miami offense, Cooper Barkate and such

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:38 is because they were trying to get him some work.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:39 Malachi Toney was open every play, Dan.

Dan Rubenstein 30:43 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:43 Every single play.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:45 And it's not like he was running deep streaks and just running by the defense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:48 He was a pinball out there.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:50 He found pockets in the zone.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:52 When he got the ball, he just made magic happen.

Ty Hildenbrandt 30:55 And look, um, Malachi Toney, I think, officially is he was before this game, but

Ty Hildenbrandt 31:01 probably even more so as a result of this game very active in the Heisman conversation, that part goes without saying.

Dan Rubenstein 31:07 Oh yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 31:08 Oh absolutely.

Dan Rubenstein 31:09 Biletnikoff, Heisman, you name it, that Malachi Toney.

Dan Rubenstein 31:14 When a player is so good

Ty Hildenbrandt 31:14 Increase.

Dan Rubenstein 31:16 That Stanford says to itself, okay, what do we need to do?

Ty Hildenbrandt 31:17 Increase.

Dan Rubenstein 31:21 Who do we need to take out of this game?

Dan Rubenstein 31:23 Who do we make sure isn't the guy that beats us?

Dan Rubenstein 31:27 And the clear answer is Malachi Toney.

Dan Rubenstein 31:30 And there was no answer.

Ty Hildenbrandt 31:31 There was no answer, no.

Dan Rubenstein 31:31 Right?

Dan Rubenstein 31:31 There was no answer for Malachi Toney.

Dan Rubenstein 31:34 He is that good.

Dan Rubenstein 31:35 He is that special.

Dan Rubenstein 31:36 His excellence at this point is boring just because it's self-evident.

Dan Rubenstein 31:41 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 31:42 He was crazy fun to watch.

Dan Rubenstein 31:44 I'm glad that game was on a Friday night, so there were more eyeballs on him.

Dan Rubenstein 31:47 Obviously, Miami does not measure itself as a program against what it can do against Stanford, beyond like, hey, if we don't win comfortably, that's cause for concern at this moment.

Dan Rubenstein 31:56 But...

Dan Rubenstein 31:57 Yeah, he was terrific.

Dan Rubenstein 31:58 Darian Mensah was terrific.

Dan Rubenstein 31:59 It was exercise.

Dan Rubenstein 32:00 It was PE, right?

Dan Rubenstein 32:02 It was uh going not going through the motions, but it was

Dan Rubenstein 32:07 f find grass, enjoy grass.

Dan Rubenstein 32:09 And I guess that fits in in Northern California.

Dan Rubenstein 32:13 But it was it was good to see from Miami.

Dan Rubenstein 32:15 Not in a spot that was at all dangerous, but it is flying across the country.

Dan Rubenstein 32:19 It's not the liveliest atmosphere.

Dan Rubenstein 32:22 And even though there were concerns about the Miami defense if you're going to nitpick when you're holding a team to six points like the Miami defense did

Ty Hildenbrandt 32:25 Mmm.

Dan Rubenstein 32:30 Um and that the the rushing attack wasn't quite as electric as I'm sure or isn't quite as electric right now as it will be moving forward and the offensive line will take some time to gel against better competition

Dan Rubenstein 32:43 I don't know, man, they're just really, really strong.

Ty Hildenbrandt 32:47 My second thing that has been impressive, and I don't even know where to start with this one, I'm just gonna say LSU.

Dan Rubenstein 32:52 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 32:54 Um, this is a game this is a game that as we record still has a considerable amount of time left in the fourth quarter.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:02 But as I see it right now, the scoreboard reads 44-3 in favor of LSU at home over the Clemson Tigers, Dan.

Dan Rubenstein 33:12 There it is.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:13 Got ourselves a nice little boat race here.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:16 They've slowly and then very quickly pulled away

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:20 LSU has been utterly dominant.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:23 Christopher Vizzina right now, 52 yards passing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:26 Tait Reynolds did get into the game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:28 Only 22 yards.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:29 Again, these stats may be stale by the time people hear this.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:33 Zero yards total rushing for the Clemson Tigers.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:37 It has been a stifling effort by that LSU defense at home in the Tiger Bowl.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:43 We will have more time, I think, to unpack this as we get into our Monday show.

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:47 I don't want to react too too much to it because I suppose things could still happen, but

Ty Hildenbrandt 33:51 Thus far, and it would appear as if it's going to end this way, a fully dominant effort for the LSU Tigers.

Dan Rubenstein 33:59 Yeah, I mean, look, you can be impressed by any number of parts of this game, as we're talking about being impressed, uh as a team, as a defense, as

Dan Rubenstein 34:07 A this is gonna be new for LSU fans.

Dan Rubenstein 34:11 A rushing attack for LSU, both via Dilin Jones, new starting running back, and Sam Leavitt, who is throwing

Ty Hildenbrandt 34:17 I mean, they're gonna need to wrap Sam Leavitt in bubble wrap to get him through this season if they keep doing what they did in this game.

Dan Rubenstein 34:22 Buddy, there is there is no part of his brain that says to his other part of his brain that says

Dan Rubenstein 34:30 Slide.

Dan Rubenstein 34:32 Go out of bounds.

Ty Hildenbrandt 34:33 Right.

Dan Rubenstein 34:34 For the love of God.

Dan Rubenstein 34:35 Save our spleen.

Dan Rubenstein 34:37 Uh he he's just hurtling down the field.

Dan Rubenstein 34:41 And...

Dan Rubenstein 34:42 I, for one, admire how much of himself he's throwing into the LSU offense.

Dan Rubenstein 34:48 He has it's thrown well tonight.

Dan Rubenstein 34:50 He has run exceptionally well tonight.

Dan Rubenstein 34:52 He's got a hell of a juke

Dan Rubenstein 34:53 Uh as he sort of goes to the sideline he had one move when he scored one of his touchdowns uh early on that was terrific that he he faked a Clemson player out of his shoes.

Dan Rubenstein 35:04 Uh and on the Clemson side

Dan Rubenstein 35:06 Look, I think Clemson will go to a bowl game.

Dan Rubenstein 35:09 There's my take.

Dan Rubenstein 35:10 Clemson will go to a bowl game.

Dan Rubenstein 35:12 Uh the the hire of Chad Morris may pay dividends at some point this year.

Dan Rubenstein 35:20 Tonight's not that night.

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:21 Tonight was not that night.

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:22 Oh my gosh.

Dan Rubenstein 35:25 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:25 These stats are these stats are a car crash, but okay.

Dan Rubenstein 35:25 Vizzina looked overwhelmed

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:29 Good on LSU.

Dan Rubenstein 35:30 Did you hear what Lane said at halftime, by the way?

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:33 No

Dan Rubenstein 35:34 Uh, I think it's Holly Rowe who was interviewing him because it's the Fowler-Herbstreit.

Ty Hildenbrandt 35:37 Yeah, yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 35:37 Uh

Dan Rubenstein 35:38 Broadcast and he said something at the end of the interview after the interview had concluded he was like lamenting the fact that they had a turnover early, that uh Sam Leavitt was picked off early and Clemson converted that into a field goal

Dan Rubenstein 35:52 And how it shouldn't even just be 31-3, it should be like 38-0 or something.

Dan Rubenstein 35:56 And then as he was walking away, he came back to her and said, and imagine what the score would be if we had pro players.

Dan Rubenstein 36:04 I am not making that up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:04 Oh, really?

Dan Rubenstein 36:05 Or no, he said, it has taken all of me to not say.

Dan Rubenstein 36:09 Imagine what and then he said it.

Dan Rubenstein 36:11 So he d obviously failed in his ability to uh restrict himself.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:12 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:15 What are those deals where you're at the dinner party and you're like, you know what?

Dan Rubenstein 36:16 So...

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:18 You bite your fist.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:20 I shouldn't say it, but I'm gonna say it.

Dan Rubenstein 36:20 I got something to say.

Dan Rubenstein 36:23 Yeah, exactly right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:24 I at least appreciate that he's fully steering into now being the heel.

Dan Rubenstein 36:29 Oh yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:29 Good on him.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:30 Just go to the dark side, be the bad guy, or be better for it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:33 Don't try to play both sides of it.

Dan Rubenstein 36:38 Insanely good.

Dan Rubenstein 36:39 As all like ESPN adjacent personalities, as any SEC coach is at this point, they all have their albums.

Dan Rubenstein 36:45 Continue.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:46 Uh two other names, Keelon Russell and Faizon Brandon.

Dan Rubenstein 36:50 Hard to know, given opponents, but continue, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:53 Hard to know for sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 36:55 Tennessee won fifty-six to nine over Furman and Bama won by thirty-eight over ECU, but um

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:02 Keelon Russell, I mean, you know I'm pretty high in Keelon Russell.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:05 Keelon Russell, two fifty-six throwing, no interceptions, ran for eighty-six yards, a very gifted runner.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:13 I'm not going to act like they were dropping him back with a lot of design quarterback runs.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:18 He was just making stuff happen.

Dan Rubenstein 37:20 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:20 There is a conversation.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:22 About him needing to slide boar and protect his body if he's gonna have some longevity in the SEC.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:28 But he was the team's leading rusher.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:30 I think he showed a lot both throwing and running with the football.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:33 That's part of the reason why I was so high on him going into this one.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:36 I kind of expected we would see some version of that from Keelon Russell, but I didn't fully know what to expect out of Faizon Brandon.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:43 Faizon Brandon had himself a day

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:46 A true freshman per Chris Hummer over at CBS.

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:50 He is the first FBS freshman this century

Ty Hildenbrandt 37:58 To have five touchdowns in a season opener.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:01 So a really, really good campaign for him.

Dan Rubenstein 38:02 Wild

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:05 Three touchdowns, also had sixty-eight yards, two touchdowns on the ground as well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:10 Um, if this plays out moving forward for both of these two teams, it definitely is going to have a big part to play in the SEC conversation.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:19 I mean, it's just gonna be enormous.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:20 It's gonna be a huge talking point.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:22 Um, I I think there were signs of life from the Auburn, or excuse me, from the Alabama, please forgive me, from the Alabama rushing attack.

Dan Rubenstein 38:29 You're good.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:30 And uh we know that Tennessee's got a lot back as well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 38:33 So this is a really encouraging sign for both those schools.

Dan Rubenstein 38:36 Yeah, a little bit of uh sloppiness.

Dan Rubenstein 38:40 From Ryan Coleman-Williams early catching Keelon Russell balls, but got his act together, had a very nice, big, encouraging game against ECU uh as he got

Dan Rubenstein 38:49 as he shook some of that rust off and hopefully we're done with the drops after last season and what he was early on against ECU.

Dan Rubenstein 38:55 Uh as for Tennessee, hard to know what it means for Faizon Brandon doing against the Paladins.

Dan Rubenstein 39:01 The good news is

Dan Rubenstein 39:02 They have Georgia Tech on the road next week.

Dan Rubenstein 39:05 And it after Georgia Tech's performance against Colorado, it's Week 1.

Dan Rubenstein 39:09 Extend grace time.

Dan Rubenstein 39:10 We extend grace for Week 1 performances.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:12 Have to, gotta do it.

Dan Rubenstein 39:14 But it seems that Georgia Tech Games, for the most part, may not involve

Dan Rubenstein 39:22 Having to win 45-42 this season.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:25 That is correct.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:27 That is correct.

Dan Rubenstein 39:27 We'll see what the offense can turn into, but

Dan Rubenstein 39:30 But uh hopefully Georgia Tech can improve upon its performance in kind of a wild game Thursday night against Colorado.

Dan Rubenstein 39:35 Uh good for Colorado for somehow, some way holding on and winning that one.

Dan Rubenstein 39:39 Uh but also Tennessee gets Texas uh at home later in the month and

Dan Rubenstein 39:44 It'll be nice to have Faizon Brandon with at least the seasoning of three games at that point.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:48 The only other thing that I'm gonna throw out and then I want to hear a handful from you.

Dan Rubenstein 39:52 Please.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:53 Guys, teams, whatever, situations that impressed you.

Ty Hildenbrandt 39:56 USC's got two freshman wideouts that are ballers.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:00 Those guys are dogs, man.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:02 Trent Mosley, another really big game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:04 We saw it in Week 0.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:05 He had 104 and two touchdowns with just four catches.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:08 And also Kayden Dixon-Wyatt went six for 102.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:11 They are scary if they have wide receivers.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:13 That was a big talking point coming into this one, this season for USC.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:17 It wasn't Jayden Maiava.

Dan Rubenstein 40:18 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:19 It wasn't even so much the line, even though they had a key injury along their line to start this thing off.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:24 It was new defense with Gary Patterson.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:27 It was who are they going to throw to now that they lose Jacoby Lane and Mikhail Lemon?

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:31 It seems as though, and I'm not gonna act as if I was all that concerned about the wide receiver room because Lincoln Riley usually figures that out.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:39 But...

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:40 These guys have been incredible through two games.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:43 We'll see as they play against better defenses, but um pretty promising start.

Dan Rubenstein 40:47 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 40:48 We're seeing a nice rapport between Maiava and a couple of these young wideouts.

Dan Rubenstein 40:51 It would it would be unusual that a team is able to uh travel ascend to super high highs with two true freshman receivers leading the way.

Dan Rubenstein 41:03 What is college football?

Dan Rubenstein 41:04 I don't know.

Dan Rubenstein 41:04 You never say never.

Dan Rubenstein 41:05 And these guys have shown that they have pop against I get San Jose State and Fresno State.

Dan Rubenstein 41:11 But you can only play the teams in front of you.

Dan Rubenstein 41:13 Obviously it's gonna get harder for USC.

Dan Rubenstein 41:14 Tanook Hines did play at least a little while in this one, so that's good to see him back on the field.

Dan Rubenstein 41:19 I think he's going to make

Dan Rubenstein 41:20 Uh his presence felt a little bit more moving forward as well.

Dan Rubenstein 41:23 Um but yeah, it was the defense and it was yeah, those two guys are were were crazy impressive.

Dan Rubenstein 41:29 Yeah, they they look like wise beyond their years.

Ty Hildenbrandt 41:32 Who impressed you?

Dan Rubenstein 41:34 Um, I mentioned the Baylor defense.

Dan Rubenstein 41:36 Uh how about Mason Heintschel?

Dan Rubenstein 41:40 Seven.

Dan Rubenstein 41:41 Touchdown passes to seven different receivers.

Dan Rubenstein 41:45 Obviously, uh what's it, Miami of Ohio was Pitt's opening salvo.

Dan Rubenstein 41:50 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 41:51 But that's what you want to see from somebody taking the next step, right?

Dan Rubenstein 41:54 You don't want to see, oh yeah, Pitt won 20 to 17 and it was kind of weird and like, but they got the job.

Dan Rubenstein 41:58 No, you want to see Mason Heintschel because the best of him last year was very encouraging

Dan Rubenstein 42:03 And you want to see that from him because there is that number two spot in the ACC right now that is very murky.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:11 This is the type of stat line you cannot even achieve in the video game.

Dan Rubenstein 42:11 Why not pit?

Dan Rubenstein 42:15 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:15 You know how impossibly hard it is to throw seven touchdowns to seven different guys in a real game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:20 Not a fake game where you can kind of mix and match your players.

Dan Rubenstein 42:21 Sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:23 I've never seen a box score like this.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:26 In all of our years of doing this show, this is season 19.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:31 I've never seen a box score that looks like the one that we saw from Mason Heintschel.

Ty Hildenbrandt 42:34 Just incredibly impressive and an awesome start to pit season

Dan Rubenstein 42:39 Pitt has UCF, uh the Fighting Angelis of Syracuse coming up.

Dan Rubenstein 42:43 Uh and then Virginia Tech on the road looks like their first.

Dan Rubenstein 42:46 I mean, I think UCF is gonna be tough next week, but

Dan Rubenstein 42:49 on the road at Virginia Tech.

Dan Rubenstein 42:50 That's the beginning of October.

Dan Rubenstein 42:52 That one should hopefully be quite fun.

Dan Rubenstein 42:55 Uh, I mentioned the Baylor defense.

Dan Rubenstein 42:57 I mentioned Sam Leavitt bouncing everywhere down the field for for LSU

Dan Rubenstein 43:02 I don't know how much exactly this means, but Koby Howard and Penn State shutting out Marshall

Dan Rubenstein 43:10 As I mentioned and messaged you earlier, it's nice that you have a team now that can officially beat Marshall, that you can count on to beat Marshall.

Dan Rubenstein 43:18 But Rocco Becht looks sharp.

Dan Rubenstein 43:19 I think after three and a half minutes of game time, you text me, I think he might throw for 400 yards.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:24 Well, they didn't cover anybody, and Koby Howard was running free.

Dan Rubenstein 43:25 No.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:27 I mean, Koby Howard had himself

Dan Rubenstein 43:29 A holdover, right?

Dan Rubenstein 43:30 A a James Franklin holdover, yep.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:32 He he was absolutely a James Franklin holdover.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:35 Um, Koby Howard was a guy that Penn Staters were very excited about last season

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:40 extremely excited about a season ago.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:42 But we didn't see a whole lot out of him.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:44 And so for him to step up in their first game with a new coach and go off in the manner that he did was damn impressive.

Dan Rubenstein 43:44 Right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:52 The stats I think also tell

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:54 A really interesting story about where Penn State has been at out widened in the passing game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 43:59 He is the first Penn State receiver of any kind to go over 150 yards since Tyler Warren did it back in 2024.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:06 And furthermore

Dan Rubenstein 44:07 Not even a ride receiver, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:08 No, and furthermore, he is the first wide receiver to do it since 2022.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:14 Back then it was Parker Washington.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:16 So it's been a hot minute.

Dan Rubenstein 44:17 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:18 Since Penn State had a receiver go over 150, and it was clear that even though Rocco Becht has a rapport with some of the guys that came over with him from Iowa State, and they had pretty good games as well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:28 What's developing with Koby Howard, perhaps out of the slot or they can find various ways to use him.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:34 Dude's got some wiggle, finds way to get open.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:36 There's a reason everyone was excited about him last year.

Ty Hildenbrandt 44:39 He just didn't really get a whole lot of an opportunity to see him out there.

Dan Rubenstein 44:43 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 44:43 As for you know other situations that impress like Nate Sheppard at Duke.

Dan Rubenstein 44:47 I mean it's a completely new look to Lane, but that's like a another dude.

Dan Rubenstein 44:51 Like we don't know exactly what Duke is gonna be this year

Dan Rubenstein 44:54 But we do know it's gonna run through Nate Nate Sheppard.

Dan Rubenstein 44:57 And uh it the defense came to play.

Dan Rubenstein 44:59 Obviously, it was sort of a boomer bust defense last year for Duke.

Dan Rubenstein 45:02 So I'm not saying the ACC is wide open.

Dan Rubenstein 45:04 I think there's a there's a clear like

Dan Rubenstein 45:06 one B tier that I seems to be forming.

Dan Rubenstein 45:09 We'll see.

Dan Rubenstein 45:10 I think Virginia's obviously in that tier.

Dan Rubenstein 45:12 Clemson perhaps not.

Dan Rubenstein 45:13 But...

Dan Rubenstein 45:14 I mean, you gotta put a little bit of respect on the name of the defending ACC champ and Nate Sheppard going for over two hundred against Tulane uh in a revenge spot for Duke.

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:22 In a revenge spot.

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:24 How about these three teams, and then we'll move on.

Dan Rubenstein 45:26 Please.

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:28 How about UCF, Kansas State, and Virginia Tech all getting to 70 points?

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:34 How about Louisiana Tech getting the vaunted 80 burger in their game against Northwestern State?

Dan Rubenstein 45:41 Also nice.

Dan Rubenstein 45:42 I appreciate it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:43 We had a really interesting dichotomy go down in Week 1 where we had some teams that just absolutely blew the doors off their opponents.

Ty Hildenbrandt 45:53 And then we've had some others, some of which we discussed here at the top of the show, a few that we might get to a little bit later on where that was hardly the case, and it's a broader conversation at this point.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:03 But um yeah, great way to start the year for uh Scott Frost.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:07 Certainly for new coach Colin Klein and also new coach James Franklin at Virginia Tech and Louisiana Tech as well.

Dan Rubenstein 46:14 I don't know how dog years work, but if you're gonna talk about a a team scoring seventy points or eighty points

Dan Rubenstein 46:21 Northwestern scoring 30 points is kind of an equivalent situation.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:26 Right.

Dan Rubenstein 46:26 They beat a very good FCS program.

Dan Rubenstein 46:29 That has gone through coaching changes recently in South Dakota State, right?

Dan Rubenstein 46:32 In in the South Dakota State Jacks, the Jackrabbits.

Dan Rubenstein 46:35 Um, Aidan Chiles, efficient.

Dan Rubenstein 46:37 I didn't watch much of this game.

Dan Rubenstein 46:38 This game was tonight with a bunch of other stuff going on.

Dan Rubenstein 46:40 Excited to watch more

Dan Rubenstein 46:41 But I I just have to say, when I see Northwestern score thirty, I say to myself, well that's like seventy in Northwestern years.

Dan Rubenstein 46:48 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:49 All right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:50 Uh we're gonna do a thing here in a little bit where I wanna hear

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:54 from the Verballerhood out there, who we should move up, who we should move down.

Dan Rubenstein 46:56 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 46:59 But first, despite the fact that we had maybe teased out doing away with this segment, Dan Rubenstein.

Dan Rubenstein 47:08 Oh

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:09 The pushback from the community was unlike anything I could have ever expected.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:13 We have done reverbs now in this show for more years than I could even count.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:17 I don't even know when we started doing this, but

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:19 People dial in at 855-VERBAL3.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:23 That's 855-837-2253 throughout the course of the day on a game day

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:29 We mix it together into about a three or four minute clip.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:32 We think it does a pretty good job taking the temperature of the baller hood and college football fans at large.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:38 And I had to throw it together today because our reverb engineer, Shea, was unavailable.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:43 So he'll be back next week.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:45 He does a much better job at this point than I do, but I threw these together.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:48 I want to thank everyone for calling in.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:50 I couldn't use all your calls and I

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:52 Truly put it together in about 12 and a half minutes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:54 But ladies and gentlemen, here are your Week 1 Reverbs.

Ty Hildenbrandt 47:57 Have a listen.

Dan Rubenstein 49:40 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 50:53 Thank you to one and all for dialing in.

Ty Hildenbrandt 50:55 We have many other calls that came in just as we hit go on this, and certainly as I was putting together the ones that I had

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:03 in my download folder, but um never ceases to amaze me some of these notes that we get from people.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:08 Get them in all different stages of fandom throughout the course of a college football game day.

Dan Rubenstein 51:09 That's great.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:13 A lot of fun.

Dan Rubenstein 51:14 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 51:14 Oh most of the most of the reverbs come down to and then you completely redeem yourself or just only right when I thought you were the oh yeah you were.

Dan Rubenstein 51:26 Okay, sorry.

Dan Rubenstein 51:27 That's what that's college football.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:29 So we talked through what impressed us.

Dan Rubenstein 51:31 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:32 I have some questions about whether or not we should be freaking out about some things, okay?

Dan Rubenstein 51:39 I'm ready.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:52 Dan Rubenstein, you heard a caller mention Rutgers.

Dan Rubenstein 51:53 I like that vibe.

Dan Rubenstein 51:55 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:56 Rutgers lost to UMass.

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:58 It was a

Ty Hildenbrandt 51:59 Nice win for UMass.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:00 They broke the longest current losing streak in FBS.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:04 Their last win over an FBS opponent was Army in 2023.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:09 Been a minute.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:11 I heard out on social media a call to WFAN in New York from a Rutgers fan who's a season ticket holder who had planned trips to go and see Rutgers.

Dan Rubenstein 52:11 I'm uh

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:22 Subsequently canceling all of his trips is really just at wits end with the program.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:28 Um this is a really bad loss.

Dan Rubenstein 52:32 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:32 And so I think the freakouts are warranted, but I'm curious to get your view on it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:37 I just I can't shine this one up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 52:40 This is like a really, really bad way to start 2026.

Dan Rubenstein 52:44 I saw it it came across one of my feeds, and I'm paraphrasing here a Greg Schiano quote that was something along the lines of I'm paraphrasing once again.

Dan Rubenstein 52:53 Yeah, definitely didn't see that coming.

Dan Rubenstein 52:55 I was like, no, that's the problem, Greg.

Dan Rubenstein 52:58 That's that's the issue that I think Rutgers fans have.

Dan Rubenstein 53:01 When you lose to UMass, and look, maybe UMass is just

Dan Rubenstein 53:05 that kind of Cinderella team in the MAC now, correct?

Dan Rubenstein 53:09 It's a it's a good weird week to uh align yourself with the MAC team at least until the the extra bonus second that Michigan got.

Dan Rubenstein 53:17 But...

Dan Rubenstein 53:19 Yeah, that's that's you y you just can't.

Dan Rubenstein 53:22 You just can't if you're a records fan with this team right now, with this program right now.

Dan Rubenstein 53:28 Like there are certain games where like, well look, whatever we are, we are, but we're not that

Dan Rubenstein 53:32 And now they are.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:34 Oklahoma State.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:37 How much should we freak out?

Dan Rubenstein 53:37 I'm willing to extend more grace for Oklahoma State than I am for Rutgers.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:42 Oklahoma State lost twenty-four to ten to Tulsa.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:45 They have more new players than we could count.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:49 It's a full reboot.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:51 New coach Eric Morris brought a bunch of guys with him from North Texas and really from all sorts of spots around college football.

Ty Hildenbrandt 53:58 They were outgained.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:00 They lost the turnover battle.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:01 They were stopped on four fourth down attempts.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:04 They also lost their left tackle, Jacob Sexton, to a leg injury, which is kind of gruesome.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:09 And definitely a bummer.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:10 We had another caller chime in about that one, just uh wondering whether or not that had an effect on the team because it

Dan Rubenstein 54:13 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:18 is one of those deals that's kind of tough to come back from.

Dan Rubenstein 54:19 Makes sense, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:20 Like we've seen those around sports.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:21 So we we certainly wish him well and we wish Oklahoma State well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:25 But um

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:26 How much grease do you extend here?

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:28 Because it it was kind of an ugly showing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:30 Like one of those deals I talk about it often where you've got the scoreboard app up on the phone and you keep pulling down to try and refresh it.

Dan Rubenstein 54:35 Mm-hmm.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:37 Refresh, refresh, refresh.

Dan Rubenstein 54:38 Well certainly they've scored by now.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:38 You're ex

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:40 Yes, certainly they got thirty-five points by now.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:42 This is an offense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:43 It just never updates because they didn't score.

Dan Rubenstein 54:44 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 54:45 How do you feel as somebody who uh had a certain amount of enthusiasm, Ty?

Ty Hildenbrandt 54:51 I feel like I should put on a red clown nose, is how I feel.

Dan Rubenstein 54:54 Okay, Ty, this is not how you're you're encouraging bad behavior, Ty.

Dan Rubenstein 54:59 You have to be the voice of reason here.

Dan Rubenstein 55:02 You buy a stock, it dips the first day, you can't freak out.

Dan Rubenstein 55:06 You're in it for the long haul, Ty, right?

Dan Rubenstein 55:08 You made such a big point of planting your cowboy flag.

Ty Hildenbrandt 55:12 This is not a Big 12 game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 55:15 As I know you like to say, the most improvement happens between Week 1 and Week 2

Dan Rubenstein 55:20 Absolutely

Ty Hildenbrandt 55:24 Had all offseason, get ready for this game.

Dan Rubenstein 55:26 Eric Morris was very accountable to his credit.

Dan Rubenstein 55:28 He was just like, I did a bad job, right?

Dan Rubenstein 55:31 He he shouldered it.

Dan Rubenstein 55:32 He said he called like some piss-poor plays, his words, I believe, on fourth down.

Dan Rubenstein 55:37 Uh, Drew Mestemaker did not have a good day.

Dan Rubenstein 55:39 It was it was a bad showing.

Dan Rubenstein 55:41 All credit to Tulsa, who Roger Sherman pointed out may have the largest midfield logo in the sport.

Dan Rubenstein 55:46 It's like 35 yards of Tulsa.

Dan Rubenstein 55:49 He said basically a basketball court of the Tulsa logo.

Dan Rubenstein 55:52 Um, I didn't watch a ton of this game.

Dan Rubenstein 55:54 I plan to.

Dan Rubenstein 55:55 I'm very interested.

Dan Rubenstein 55:56 It would be very cool if Tulsa makes some noise in the American this year.

Dan Rubenstein 55:59 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 56:01 R real fall flat moment though.

Dan Rubenstein 56:03 It's okay to lose.

Dan Rubenstein 56:04 It's okay to lose Week 1.

Dan Rubenstein 56:06 It's okay to not, you know, be exactly who you're hoping to be the first time you take the field.

Dan Rubenstein 56:12 This is all new team.

Dan Rubenstein 56:14 A lot of hope.

Dan Rubenstein 56:15 A lot of money spent on this team.

Dan Rubenstein 56:17 Drew Mestemaker had options.

Dan Rubenstein 56:19 So you hope.

Dan Rubenstein 56:20 Who does Oklahoma State have next week, Ty?

Dan Rubenstein 56:22 Look, you want to look this up?

Ty Hildenbrandt 56:22 I believe they have the Oregon Ducks.

Dan Rubenstein 56:24 Well that okay, so it's gonna be a tough week too, likely.

Dan Rubenstein 56:27 Although it's in still water, so maybe there's some more juice, maybe there's some more energy.

Dan Rubenstein 56:31 Never know.

Ty Hildenbrandt 56:32 Okay.

Dan Rubenstein 56:33 But uh yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 56:33 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 56:39 I yeah, of course you freak out a little bit.

Dan Rubenstein 56:41 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 56:42 I think if I were a Clemson fan, I'd be, I'd be freaking out right now.

Dan Rubenstein 56:46 Because it's it's not that you're like, I I th if I'm a Clemson fan, I am only measuring Clemson against

Dan Rubenstein 56:53 you know, people that teams that are considered to be national championship contenders or wild cards for a conference championship and a very tough conference and you know whatever the ceiling is of LSU.

Dan Rubenstein 57:05 You you Clemson had no idea what LSU exactly was going to be in Lane Kiffin's first game.

Dan Rubenstein 57:12 But Dabo's been around for a while.

Dan Rubenstein 57:15 And they keep scoring three points, seven points against top-tier teams to open up the season in the past few years.

Ty Hildenbrandt 57:18 If you need to do it

Dan Rubenstein 57:23 And...

Dan Rubenstein 57:25 It seems right now to open up seasons, Dabo is nowhere near good enough to field a competitive team against a good team.

Dan Rubenstein 57:35 And it's nothing new.

Dan Rubenstein 57:42 This is this is where we are.

Dan Rubenstein 57:44 And you just sort of take it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 57:46 I mean, I think it's one thing to go on the road to LSU and lose.

Ty Hildenbrandt 57:50 I think that's defensible.

Dan Rubenstein 57:50 Agree.

Dan Rubenstein 57:52 Twenty-seven twenty.

Ty Hildenbrandt 57:53 Yeah, that's defensible.

Dan Rubenstein 57:53 Tough battle, but we didn't come out on top.

Ty Hildenbrandt 57:56 That's absolutely defensible, but it looks as if they're gonna lose this game by a 51-10 score.

Dan Rubenstein 57:58 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:04 A game in which two quarterbacks combined for 105 passing yards and one interception, they did manage to get to 40 rushing yards and a touchdown.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:14 before the end of this one.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:16 But this was just a thorough beatdown on the road.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:21 And to look as hapless as they did against a team that I know they aspire to

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:26 beat teams like this, um, this is this is a really, really bad showing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:31 And it's certain Yeah, it does not say much for any of the offseason work that

Dan Rubenstein 58:31 Fifty one ten final, by the way.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:37 Clemson did both in terms of bringing in a new coordinator, a new old coordinator and Chad Morris.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:43 It certainly doesn't say a whole lot for, as you said, Christopher Vizzina, who looked overwhelmed for a good chunk of this game.

Dan Rubenstein 58:49 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 58:50 And it also doesn't lend itself very well to some of the work they actually did do to their credit in the transfer portal to beef up that defense a little bit.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:01 51 points.

Dan Rubenstein 59:02 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 59:04 Well they did it was a pick six, that's not on the defense.

Dan Rubenstein 59:07 There was Jordan Jordan Ross, I think.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:07 I'm shrugging, Dan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:08 I'm shrugging here.

Dan Rubenstein 59:09 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:10 This is a really bad showing for Clemson, so I I think a freakout's warranted.

Dan Rubenstein 59:10 Uh without having watched the second half of this game basically.

Dan Rubenstein 59:17 If you're gonna go polar opposite, if you're an LSU fan, are you just

Dan Rubenstein 59:23 Ready to freak out.

Dan Rubenstein 59:23 Are you ready to freak out?

Dan Rubenstein 59:25 You're just like, let's we finally have a game of proof.

Dan Rubenstein 59:28 That's all I needed to see.

Dan Rubenstein 59:29 Let's roll.

Dan Rubenstein 59:30 We're there.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:31 I th I think this is

Dan Rubenstein 59:33 Are you allowing yourself that kind of vulnerability?

Dan Rubenstein 59:36 Yeah, we're we're winning it all.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:37 I think this is the scene in Star Wars where Anakin finds out that the dark side gives him unnatural powers.

Dan Rubenstein 59:43 Okay.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:43 That's what this is.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:44 That's that's where we're at if you're an LSU fan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:47 And I think if if I were an LSU fan, I'd be like, hell yeah, man, sign me up.

Dan Rubenstein 59:50 Gotta freak out.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:50 Sign sign me up.

Dan Rubenstein 59:51 You gotta freak out.

Dan Rubenstein 59:52 Don't don't stay reserved.

Dan Rubenstein 59:54 It's time.

Dan Rubenstein 59:55 Lose yourself.

Dan Rubenstein 59:56 Yeah, rip off your shirt.

Ty Hildenbrandt 59:58 My final one that I've got listed here.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:00 Well I've got two

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:03 First off, Michigan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:04 How much of a freakout.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:06 I don't know if we need to go too much more deeply into the whole Michigan thing, but certainly what we saw on the offensive side was not.

Dan Rubenstein 01:00:06 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:00:16 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:20 What about Georgia Tech and or Colorado?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:25 And or because and here's why I bring this up, right?

Dan Rubenstein 01:00:26 The uh the the sort of stink they got on each other at times.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:32 Because these are two teams that are are entering 2026.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:37 At something of a crossroads, right?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:38 Georgia Tech had Haynes King for all those years.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:41 Haynes King was the centerpiece of the offense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:43 They're moving away from that.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:44 They have Alberto Mendoza, who I thought, to his credit, actually looked pretty good.

Dan Rubenstein 01:00:47 I had I thought he threw the ball nicely, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:49 I th I thought he looked pretty good.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:52 But um the offense definitely was a shell of its former self.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:57 They couldn't run the ball.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:59 And then on the Colorado side

Dan Rubenstein 01:00:59 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:01 I didn't think Colorado looked good at all in this game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:04 Maybe on defense and maybe that

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:05 No, no, I think they definitely made plays on defense that we weren't used to.

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:10 And on offense, they were not explosive.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:13 Right.

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:14 But...

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:15 They kind of saw that running the ball was working.

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:17 They kind of were okay with picking up four, four and a half yards per carry, and he was not good.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:20 Like, Dan, Juju Lewis was not good

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:24 He really was not good in this game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:26 And so I um I just wonder from the Colorado fans' perspective.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:32 you know, how how much you freak out after seeing the offensive output.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:34 Now a win's a win and it was on the road and it was earlier in the week and at night, you know, it was sort of the centerpiece of that Thursday night sleep.

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:36 Win's a win.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:43 But um

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:44 I don't know, man.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:45 It didn't leave me feeling all that inspired.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:48 Got the job done when they had to, to their credit.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:50 And yes, they made some plays on defense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:52 But as they play tougher teams now, I'm not sure what this means.

Dan Rubenstein 01:01:57 Here okay, so the my only spin on the Colorado thing is this.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:01 Uh they held a team down on defense.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:04 They uh on offense were able to move the ball some, although generally was not through the air.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:11 And when it came to the clutch portion of the game

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:16 Juju Lewis did complete a couple passes downfield, did have an extraordinary play uh go for what eventually became the game-winning touchdown.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:25 And special teams is a phase of the game.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:28 And they made a special teams play.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:30 They won in different way, using different facets, different phases of football.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:35 And that is not something Colorado has always done under Deion Sanders.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:39 And so they outran Georgia Tech, did they not?

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:42 On the road?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:02:42 They didn't.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:44 That's a quality takeaway.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:45 I don't know what Colorado ceiling is this year.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:48 It was looked like crazy uncomfortable in the heat, which was like another sub-story, and you saw like the Texas stuff this this week.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:54 I'm sure you saw like people like trying to keep cool.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:57 uh hanging out in the concourse.

Dan Rubenstein 01:02:59 Uh it looked super uncomfortable.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:01 Colorado it got it done in an uncomfortable spot.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:04 And that's uh a win is a win.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:05 Win your clunkers.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:06 Colorado did it.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:03:08 Any other freak outs that you want to quiz me on before we get to talking about who we're moving up and who we're moving down in our AP ballot?

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:18 Um not fully freaking out about Oregon yet, uh, because I think Boise is a quality team, but I there is a I'm I'm saving it to my desktop.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:29 Uh the the freak out that I will have at some point about the offensive and defensive coordinators and you know some of the decision making there.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:38 But I I I'm not

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:40 going full screen with it.

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:41 Um any other freakouts?

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:44 Not especially in this I mean, TCU, that's sort of a delayed like I'd be a little bit concerned right now if I were a TCU fan about how this season's looking right now, but

Dan Rubenstein 01:03:54 Otherwise, no.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:03:56 Okay.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:01 Here's what I want from the Verballerhood for the people out there that are watching live, for the people out there who have been a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

Dan Rubenstein 01:04:03 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:08 Gone through the gamut this evening watching college football.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:13 As you know, as we've said a couple times over, we have an AP Top 25 ballot that we have to turn in on early Tuesday morning.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:21 I am curious to hear from the Verballerhood who you would move up, who you would move down.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:28 So in the comments as you are watching live, just list the name of a team and tell me up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:35 Or tell me down.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:36 Going up?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:38 Going down.

Dan Rubenstein 01:04:39 Oh, thousand.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:40 Let me know what your thoughts are, Dan.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:42 I've got a couple obvious ones.

Dan Rubenstein 01:04:44 Okay, go blue.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:45 That I we had Michigan, and this is just our poll.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:50 This is not the overall AP ballot and where they finished.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:53 I believe they came in what 16th?

Dan Rubenstein 01:04:55 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:55 Some somewhere around that neighborhood.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:57 We had them 15th.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:04:59 I think it goes without saying that Michigan's got to drop a fair amount, yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:05:03 They're out of my top twenty five.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:04 I think we gotta bump them all the way out.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:06 This was not a good showing.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:07 They can come back up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:08 They can come back up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:09 They'll have an opportunity a week from now.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:12 To come back up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:13 But the obvious one is the Michigan Wolverines.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:15 As many people here are chiming in, I think everyone would agree that Michigan, as Gary says, maybe shouldn't even be discussed as part of a top 25 team until they get their act together.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:26 Um what do we think about teams like Penn State and Tennessee, both of whom were on the lower end of that top 25?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:33 We had Penn State 20th, we had Tennessee 19th.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:05:37 Penn State maybe had a little bit of a tougher opponent than Tennessee, but I thought both looked damn impressive.

Dan Rubenstein 01:05:44 I mean other than Michigan, then I guess when you if you're gonna

Dan Rubenstein 01:05:48 shoot up the the AP top twenty-five to number two uh with Oregon.

Dan Rubenstein 01:05:52 I'm not sure who did anything to show that they were unworthy of their ranking in this moment.

Dan Rubenstein 01:05:59 So I just kind of keep 'em there.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:01 What about your Oregon Ducks?

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:05 Uh, I would move them down a few.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:07 Not nothing dramatic, maybe like six, seven.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:11 I think that's fair.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:12 I mean, I think by virtue of what we saw against Boise, we gotta move them down because it was not an impressive showing.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:12 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:16 Mm-hmm.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:19 They did pull it together late.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:20 I think they deserve credit for winning in the manner that they did.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:23 When you're when you're top two, when you're top five, top ten, something like that, I think there you there needs to be something shown.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:30 Now, it's opening week.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:33 We're dealing with preseason rankings.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:35 This is all silly.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:36 We agree.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:38 But if we're going to do the preseason ranking and we're going to say this is what we believe now, now that we have a data point, let's start adjusting.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:48 I'm curious to see what goes down in the Notre Dame-Wisconsin game on Sunday night.

Dan Rubenstein 01:06:53 Yep.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:54 As many people listen to this, this game will have already been completed.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:06:58 Um but Georgia was an absolute buzzsaw in their game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:03 Nate Frazier, the running back, had four touches and three touchdowns.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:07 Gunnar Stockton missed one pass.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:09 Georgia looked like they were on autopilot in their game today.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:13 The opponent for Notre Dame

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:15 And maybe this isn't something we'll say a whole lot of this year, but certainly if we're comparing Notre Dame and Georgia, Notre Dame's opponent in Week 1 is a little bit more difficult.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:24 So let's see how they stack up against Wisconsin, but I could definitely see a world in which we bumped Georgia all the way up to number two with how impressive they looked.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:31 And that's just my opinion.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:32 We'll talk this through as a unit, but

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:34 I I'm with you.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:35 Did either of us have Wisconsin in our top twenty-five when we had that conversation?

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:38 No.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:39 I don't believe we did.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:40 Nowhere nowhere close to it.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:40 So it's still an unranked team.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:42 We...

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:42 We uh I think respect Wisconsin more than uh as an opponent more than what Georgia was facing today.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:48 I think LSU probably deserves a bump up after beating Clemson in the manner that they have here.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:54 We had him.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:54 Unranked Clemson, at least by the AP.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:57 The the coaches looked at Clemson.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:07:57 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:07:58 They were like, ooh, that's a ranked team.

Dan Rubenstein 01:08:00 Um yeah, that's fine with me.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:00 But on a week on a week where there weren't a whole lot of marquee matchups, on a week where um you know Clemson came in with

Dan Rubenstein 01:08:02 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:10 uh you know they were only a ten-point dog.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:13 They certainly nobody had them losing by 41.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:15 Um and they were a borderline top twenty-five team.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:18 I think this is one of the more impressive wins, just in the manner that LSU won, I could see us bumping them up a few.

Dan Rubenstein 01:08:23 I w Yeah, I would I would have them in the top ten for sure.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:27 A few others that have come in as I'm watching the chat here.

Dan Rubenstein 01:08:31 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:31 Um people are talking up the Florida Gators

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:35 Florida Gators, I thought, looked pretty good.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:37 Definitely a little bit more creative on offense.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:39 That was impressive to me.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:41 I liked what I saw to Utah, Dan earlier in the week.

Dan Rubenstein 01:08:44 Yeah, got some Byrd Ficklin action, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:47 We got some Byrd Ficklin action, but I think more impressively, like, we're used to seeing Utah run for a boatload of yardage.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:55 They ran for three sixty-four and four touchdowns.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:08:58 But just offensively, they look super creative.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:01 They did some stuff that we're not used to seeing a Utah offense do.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:05 And at least in my informal polling of Utah people that listen to the show

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:10 There seemed to be a fair amount of optimism surrounding that.

Dan Rubenstein 01:09:14 Yeah, I think that's fair.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:16 A couple others just for consideration.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:20 Saw a few of these come in as well.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:23 Mizzou looked pretty good.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:25 Austin Simmons looked great.

Dan Rubenstein 01:09:26 Austin Simmons just sliced and diced, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:28 Albeit against Arkansas-Pine Bluff, but it was a really good opening stanza for Austin Simmons at Mizzou.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:34 South Carolina won 57 to zip over Kent State and looked pretty good in the process.

Dan Rubenstein 01:09:39 We'll take it

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:41 I could probably make a case that we should bump Houston down.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:45 With how they handled their business against Oregon State.

Dan Rubenstein 01:09:47 Lumpy showing, yeah

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:49 Oregon State surprisingly frisky in that game on the road against Houston.

Dan Rubenstein 01:09:56 Agree.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:09:58 Let us know your thoughts here.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:00 Let us know your thoughts if you're watching live.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:02 We'd love to hear from each and every one of you who should move up.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:06 Who should move down, of course, you can always follow or subscribe so that you don't miss any of our episodes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:12 We will continue this conversation literally every Saturday night.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:15 This is a weird week because we've got games that spans Sunday and Monday as well.

Dan Rubenstein 01:10:19 Yes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:19 So um I

Dan Rubenstein 01:10:20 And there's a lot of like the Virginia Military Institute on a lot of team schedules.

Dan Rubenstein 01:10:25 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:26 Correct.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:26 So I think in normal circumstances we can present

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:29 a little bit more of a complete conversation over how we're gonna adjust our AP Top 25 ballot.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:35 But um definitely some teams that deserve a bit of an adjustment given what we saw in Week 1 and we'd love to hear from you.

Dan Rubenstein 01:10:42 All right.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:42 Let us know a little bit more.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:44 Dan Rubenstein, you put out the call on our social media feeds.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:48 Um...

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:51 We call them Dude Alerts.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:53 They go out to the most impressive individual performances that we saw around college football.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:10:58 The three that I jotted down are the three that

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:01 Uh two that we already mentioned, Mason Heintschel and Malachi Toney.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:04 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:04 I just got done talking about what happened with the Houston-Oregon State game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:08 I'll throw in Braden Atkinson from Oregon State, a new quarterback for Oregon State who threw for 376

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:12 This is true.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:14 And had a touchdown, no interceptions on the road against a pretty good Houston team that is in both of our top twenty-fives.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:21 Who else did we have from the Verballerhood?

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:23 Uh, I really liked watching Sam Leavitt tonight, so I'm throwing him in there.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:28 We got a lot of answers of like

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:29 Michigan Timekeeper, the Michigan refereeing crew, that extra second, what a dude that extra second was out of nowhere for Michigan.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:36 The dude of the week.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:38 The extra second.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:39 Um, Cutter Boley threw six touchdowns uh in his uh ASU debut, or at least so far.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:44 Wow, I didn't see that.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:11:46 Great.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:46 I it was not that impressive an opponent.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:48 Um...

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:49 Cam Cook for West Virginia, your guy against Coastal Carolina.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:52 They hung on to hung on to win, but he went for over a buck forty.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:55 Jadan Baugh, you mentioned Florida.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:57 He went for a buck sixty.

Dan Rubenstein 01:11:59 Kamari Moulton was very good for Iowa in

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:02 uh like a not a a strange situation.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:02 Mm-hmm.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:04 They won going away, but both those quarterbacks, Hecklinski and Hank Brown, both got time uh under center.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:10 Um you know KJ Duff in a losing effort went for like 200 yards receiving for Rutgers against UMass.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:13 Oh my god.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:16 So a name we didn't mention in that Baylor-Auburn game, Gavin Freeman

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:23 Yeah, man, he was everywhere.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:23 uh a revelation for Baylor through the air making big plays.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:27 So those those are the dudes I have, but uh and those are some of the dudes that people contributed.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:32 And we should update a bit of an announcement that we made earlier in the episode.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:36 We can now add Arizona State to the list of teams that achieve seventy points, as they're at seventy to seven here.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:37 Please.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:42 at time of recording with about two minutes left in their game against Morgan State.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:46 So another one.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:46 We got another one that got the 70.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:46 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:48 I think they agreed, somebody in the comments said they agreed to shorten that game.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:52 I love when they do that.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:53 It's a it's a nice nice gesture.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:56 Nice little gesture.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:12:57 All right, so here's the deal, one and all.

Dan Rubenstein 01:12:57 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:00 As you know, Week 1, a little bit of different schedule, given that they have these games that span both

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:08 Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, in addition to the Thursday and Friday precursor.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:13 We've got Ole Miss-Louisville tomorrow.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:16 We've got

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:16 The Apple Cup tomorrow.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:18 We've got Notre Dame-Wisconsin.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:20 We've got Florida State-SMU to be played on Monday evening.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:24 At time of recording, we also have a couple games that are still in progress.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:29 We've got UCLA and Cal locked in a game that looks like it's uh a pretty good one.

Dan Rubenstein 01:13:33 Yeah.

Dan Rubenstein 01:13:34 Tide heading into the fourth quarter, yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:35 Yeah, I can't wait to to check that one out.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:39 and see what we've got.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:40 We've got a close affair on the islands between UNLV and Hawaii

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:13:46 We do need to take some time to fully unpack what went down with that Clemson-LSU game in addition to some of the other action that has transpired this evening.

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Dan Rubenstein 01:14:27 Yes.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:14:31 It has been

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:14:32 Quite a Week 1.

Dan Rubenstein 01:14:34 Yeah.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:14:34 It started off pretty quiet.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:14:36 It finished with a bang.

Ty Hildenbrandt 01:14:38 As is evidenced from all the people that have been tuning in live, there's a lot of pent-up emotion, which is why we love doing it at this

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Dan Rubenstein 01:15:35 Nice.

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