College Football Week 5 Recap — Power-Cleaned Transcript

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00:02 Welcome to The Solid Verbal. 00:03 The Solid Verbal. 00:04 Come after me! 00:06 I'm a man! 00:07 I'm 40! 00:08 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy. 00:10 You want to be happy for a day? 00:12 Eat a steak. 00:13 It's that whoop, whoa. 00:15 Now, Dan 00:16 and Ty. 00:17 Dan Rubenstein.

00:19 Oh, oh, oh. 00:21 We're not in separate windows. 00:22 We're in the same window. 00:24 I am here in Chicago. 00:25 You are here in Chicago. 00:26 He lives here. 00:27 I don't. 00:28 We've got a little bit of dramatic lighting. 00:30 Going on here. 00:31 We found a way to pull this together about 15 minutes before we hit go live. 00:35 It is a pleasure to be with you here 00:37 in Chicagoland, sir.

00:38 Welcome to the Verballer Hood. 00:39 Welcome, everybody. 00:41 Out there watching us live. 00:42 It is a pleasure to have you here with us as well. 00:44 We're going to walk through week five, Dan Rubenstein. 00:46 Are you ready? 00:47 I think so. 00:48 Yeah. 00:48 It's weird to 00:49 hear your voice this clearly. 00:51 I mean, normally you are pretty clear. 00:53 But now, this is like

00:54 you guys can't imagine the 00:56 binaural audio that I have going on in this room, in these ears. 01:02 I'm very excited. 01:03 We're going to try to pull off an orgal show tonight, even if it looks a little bit different. 01:07 Don't worry. 01:08 We've got the soundboard here. 01:09 Look, you can see it on the camera tonight. 01:13 Hello to everybody out there on YouTube, on Twitter, slash X the Everything app 01:17 on TikTok. 01:18 Please write, comment, let us know your thoughts here. 01:21 We will be sending call outs throughout the course of the next hour, hour and 15 or so. 01:26 As we walk through week five.

01:28 What were your big impressions 01:29 week five, mister Rubenstein? 01:32 Good question. 01:33 My big impressions were basically 01:36 It's an early part of the year still. 01:38 It's an early part of the year. 01:40 We all, I think, are guilty of jumping to really large conclusions 01:45 and 01:46 Every week they get turned on their face. 01:48 Is that what you get turned on? 01:50 Turned on your ear? 01:51 Turned on your ear?

01:52 Sure. 01:53 And 01:54 The two things that I think we know we can count on 01:57 in this moment in time, almost through week five, we're recording this as what Arizona and Cincinnati are squaring off in the middle of the Sonoran desert. 02:05 Is 02:06 one, 02:07 there may not be anything quite like Keelon Russell in this sport in this moment. 02:12 And two 02:13 , 02:14 I think we're all just trying to catch up to Northwestern football. 02:17 I think that's just the lesson at hand. 02:20 And three, if I can add a bonus.

02:23 I guess you 02:23 got to beat Harvard for four straight quarters if you really want to get the best. 02:27 You can't take anything for granted against the Crimson Dan. 02:29 We're going to get into that. 02:30 You know, we got a doc here in front of us. 02:32 Our intention is to start and talk a lot about Missouri 02:36 and Florida. 02:37 But 02:37 look, let's not bury the lead. 02:39 We're next to each other for a reason. 02:40 Yes. 02:41 I came out to Chicago.

02:43 Thank you for the kind accommodations.

02:45 The reason that I am here that we are here is because we did go to the Northwestern game, the grand opening of the new stadium on Friday night. 02:53 Northwestern took it to Penn State. 02:55 My alma mater. 02:56 I didn't enjoy that part of the game, but everything else was pretty damn cool. 02:59 Yeah. 02:59 Yes, unbelievable. 03:00 The stadium was great. 03:02 The vibes were great, obviously, with Northwestern winning in the manner that they did. 03:06 I'm sure we'll get to your Penn State thoughts. 03:08 But the experience of going to a game, seeing the 03:12 rarity that is a new stadium.

03:15 Yeah, that was it was a hell of a night. 03:17 It was a great time just from a college football experience and 03:20 getting to see the 03:21 and feel the electricity there. 03:24 The flyover, your afterburners, your sweet, sweet afterburners. 03:27 It was great. 03:28 We were trying to think of how many college stadiums we could think of off the top of our head as we walked over to the stadium. 03:35 have 03:36 opened. 03:36 Yeah. 03:37 Brand new have opened within the last decade or so. 03:40 And it's really only a small handful.

03:42 Yeah. 03:42 So this was rarefied air out here 03:45 In the Chicagoland area, Chicago's Big Ten Stadium, as it were, as they have 03:51 above the branding. 03:52 But 03:53 built an $800 million 03:54 band box that's very loud, has a very cool student section. 03:58 And obviously, they were riding the way of Northwestern 04:01 34 to 13 over Milamot or Penn State. 04:03 We'll get into that 04:04 in just a little bit, though. 04:06 I think the story of the day and where we're going to start off, though, was Missouri 45.

04:12 Yeah, Florida 04:13 17. 04:14 This was a beatdown 04:17 in every sense of the word. 04:18 Austin Simmons went off.

04:21 I don't even know where we want to start with this game, but this comes on the heels of a full week of people online wondering 04:29 why is Mizzou 04:30 still ranked at 25? 04:32 This comes on the heels of 04:35 Without going into specifics, some fantastical 04:39 thoughts on the Florida Gators and where their 04:42 place is

04:43 in the college football universe after one month of the college football season. 04:47 Right. 04:48 They did not get to any of those heights in this matchup as Mizzou 04:53 took it to them at home in Colombia. 04:56 But again, your final score was a twenty eight point thumping. 04:59 Also, that's okay. 05:01 It's okay. 05:02 It's okay if Mizzou 05:03 looks stale against Troy. 05:05 It's okay if Florida looks stale on the road after a huge win against Ole Miss 05:10 and gets thunked by a team who is clearly the better team today. 05:14 I think it was Homecoming in Como as well.

05:17 And 05:18 which is all to say 05:19 You're not as good as you look, and you're not as good as you think you are a few weeks into the season, likely, and you're not as bad as you think you are a few weeks into the season. 05:28 likely. 05:29 And it's a first year coach for Florida. 05:31 Obviously, it's been kind of a long time coming for Mizzou 05:35 and getting over the rank 05:36 team 05:36 quality team hump, but a lot of quality losses and 05:40 weird endings. 05:42 And 05:43 Via Austin Simmons, via

05:45 a new 05:46 look 05:46 receiving core, a new look 05:47 defense that was missing a couple of key guys up front. 05:49 Obviously, how do you get this far without talking about Jamal Roberts and what he was able to do? 05:54 That 05:54 it was the right day. 05:56 It was the right time. 05:56 It was the right opportunity for the Tigers. 05:59 And they smashed them. 06:00 They smashed him. 06:01 They stopped Jadan Baugh.

06:03 They stopped Jadan Baugh. 06:04 They forced Aaron Filo to beat him. 06:07 Aaron Filo 06:08 on his own 06:09 could not beat them. 06:10 And Mizzou, courtesy of Austin Simmons and a pretty good receiving core. 06:15 Expose 06:16 something that had been bubbling beneath the surface. 06:18 Yes. 06:19 Caught up, or I should say, maybe 06:21 shrouded 06:22 in the excitement over how far Florida has come in a very short period of time, which is still true.

06:27 Yeah. 06:28 Shrouded by that 06:29 and all that excitement was the fact that there were some relapses on defense. 06:33 You and I talked a little bit about 06:35 like 06:36 Yards per drive, or points per drive, I guess, on defense 06:39 on the Florida side. 06:40 It had just sort of been lurking. 06:42 People were looking past it because the offense was number one at points per drive. 06:45 But defensively, defensively, there were some cracks in that foundation. 06:49 Yeah. 06:49 We saw.

06:51 Huge plays. 06:52 In the passing game, we saw huge plays in the second half for Jamal Roberts in the running game. 06:57 Three touchdowns. 06:58 I believe in the second half, he had both a 77 and an 80-yard run. 07:02 On top of 07:04 insult to injury here for 07:06 this big win over the Gators. 07:08 So Mizzou, to your point, definitely got over the hump in a pretty significant way. 07:13 We have them ranked now. 07:14 We didn't have them ranked a week ago. 07:15 We're going to get into the poll in a little bit, but we had a long debate here trying to figure out 07:20 what the hell are we supposed to do with Missouri now.

07:22 You're starting to get to that point in the season. 07:25 where 07:25 if you try to compare resume heads up, 07:28 it gets weird and transitive in a hurry. 07:31 And so we did our best. 07:32 We'll get into that. 07:33 Here's what you do. 07:33 We would welcome comments down below. 07:35 Let us know where you are. 07:36 Here's what you do if you're a voter or if you just 07:38 have opinions. 07:39 Do whatever you want with them, right?

07:41 This is it's highly subjective with a limited amount of data points. 07:45 And 07:47 Mizzou 07:47 has struggled at times. 07:48 They've been good at times. 07:49 They broke through. 07:50 The Florida story, I don't think any 07:52 I don't think anything is sort of taken away from like the long term Jon Sumrall 07:56 project in Gainesville. 07:58 Because they lost to a pretty decent team in a pretty indecent way. 08:02 The way that Mizzou 08:03 was able to smash them, I feel

08:05 I feel good about Mizzou 08:07 moving forward and that they were able to get over the hump here. 08:09 And I feel good about Florida moving forward 08:11 because of how dynamic I think their offense is going to continue to be. 08:15 And 08:16 I think 08:16 one more performance like this for Mizzou 08:20 I'm just the circles I run in, Ty, we could be comparing them to some interesting teams. 08:26 One more performance like this. 08:28 It just takes one more week, right? 08:29 It just takes one more week. 08:30 So we also came to this revelation of

08:32 flashing it up on the screen right now. 08:33 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 08:35 It dawned on us that there's something of a top 25 Ponzi scheme going on with 08:40 respect to SEC teams. 08:43 And in fact, the bottom of that triangle 08:46 Maybe the Clemson Tigers. 08:48 So you may recall 08:49 back in week one, 51-10 win by LSU over Clemson. 08:54 Week three, nice win for Ole Miss, gets revenge on Lane Kiffin. 09:00 Suddenly, Ole Miss. 09:01 Everyone's high on Ole Miss. 09:02 Right.

09:03 LSU must be great if they're able to stomp Clemson. 09:06 Ole Miss must be great if they're able to stomp. 09:08 LSU, but not stomp LSU, right? 09:10 Get by 09:10 LSU in a big emotionally charged game. 09:12 And now here 09:13 it brings us to today. 09:14 Well, it brings us to last week where Florida 09:17 Oh, yes. 09:17 Takes its Ole Miss, and 09:19 everyone's high 09:19 in Florida.

09:20 Yes. 09:20 And now, 09:21 to be honest with you, I don't know what the triangle looks like now. 09:24 This is a bit of an issue because we didn't go that far with it. 09:28 At least before the game, this is sort of how we fleshed it out. 09:31 We were trying to figure out sort of

09:33 the order of things as it relates to all of these teams being ranked, the hype surrounding all of them at one point or another. 09:41 And now we basically need to tear the whole damn thing up and figure it out again. 09:44 I guess if we were going to extend 09:46 the scheme, the reverse pyramid, I guess. 09:50 It's the Austin Simonzi 09:52 scheme.

09:54 That's as good as I can be. 09:55 I mean, it is shoehorn, but it's not bad. 09:56 And it's early. 09:57 Yeah. 09:57 Early. 09:58 Exactly. 09:58 Yeah. 09:59 Yeah. 10:00 So, yeah,

10:01 you're building a metropolis atop a landfill and hoping for the best that it actually proves a point, which is 10:06 the point is 10:07 nobody knows anything.

10:08 We're very early on in the season 10:10 and 10:11 We don't need to say 10:12 anything in terms of absolutes based on September, essentially. 10:16 Sticking in the SEC then, we had Alabama 56. 10:21 Mississippi State 23. 10:23 Mississippi State, another one of these seems not on the pyramid. 10:26 No. 10:27 Not part of 10:28 that order of magnitude. 10:30 Right. 10:30 But

10:31 for sure, one of the teams that everyone's been very excited about 10:34 this year. 10:34 For good reason. 10:35 For good reason. 10:36 Right? 10:36 For good reason. 10:37 They've been a Cinderella of sorts. 10:39 Alabama smoked them. 10:41 They absolutely smoked them. 10:43 They outscored Mississippi State 38-7 10:46 after halftime. 10:48 They had nearly three

10:49 and a half more yards per play. 10:52 There were six turnovers in the game. 10:54 It was sort of sloppy, really, on both sides 10:56 with respect to that. 10:57 But four of them were by Mississippi State. 10:59 Look, the big thing was that they made 11:02 Super Kamario Taylor 11:04 Look like he was a 19-year-old. 11:06 Right. 11:06 They made him look 11:07 his age. 11:08 They sacked him five times.

11:10 He had two picks. 11:10 He had a lost fumble. 11:13 It was. 11:14 A situation where they couldn't run. 11:16 Fluff, buff, 11:17 bluff 11:17 , 11:18 fluff. 11:19 It's early. 11:19 You got this? 11:21 Left the game early. 11:22 And then on the flip side.

11:25 Keelon Russell looked unstoppable. 11:26 Unreal. 11:27 You know, 11:28 he was able to get his. 11:30 And so it never really felt to me like this game was much in danger, even though Mississippi State 11:36 Did come back a little bit early and try to make it a game. 11:38 Eventually, Alabama was just way too much. 11:40 Too many big plays, too much playmaking from Keelon Russell. 11:44 It just it 11:45 we didn't necessarily feel surprised by this, but 11:49 the manner in which Bama poured it on 11:51 late was, I thought, pretty impressive.

11:53 Yeah, we went into this game thinking Alabama was the better team, thinking Alabama had 11:57 more consistent explosion, especially since they've been able to run the ball this year in a way that obviously they needed to prove that they could do once again. 12:05 We had questions about the Mississippi State defense. 12:07 This is just a question of Mississippi State losing to a better team. 12:10 I don't think this is a commentary on the quality of Mississippi State at all. 12:13 Kamario Taylor's obviously 12:14 Been beat up. 12:15 He was beat up last week against Mizzou 12:17 and was able to come back. 12:18 He's a warrior and he's incredible, and he's going to continue to do great things for Mississippi State. 12:22 The improvement is obvious for Mississippi State. 12:24 Today, they ran into a team that

12:27 can 12:27 explode, that can protect the quarterback, that can you know, obviously Keelon Russell has been 12:32 if he hasn't been the biggest playmaking quarterback in the country 12:36 because of both of his arm 12:38 his arm and his feet, which he doesn't like 12:40 look for the wrong. 12:42 He takes the run when it's there. 12:44 He'd really rather go through his progressions and make a big play for one of his receivers or running backs or whatever 12:50 through the air. 12:51 They're a better team. 12:52 They're making plays on both sides of the ball. 12:54 They're able to overwhelm.

12:56 I mean, today was Mississippi State defensively at times. 12:59 And 13:00 for them to go on the road 13:02 like they did 13:04 after the emphatic performance last week against South Carolina 13:06 and then what they have next week coming up, a huge matchup against Georgia. 13:11 to be locked in with the cowbells, with 13:14 the superhero that Mississippi State largely has at quarterback and fluff, you mentioned 13:19 in the backfield. 13:21 Alabama is 13:23 a 13:24 lot closer to, I think, what their finished form will be this season than I thought they would be in this moment.

13:30 Working in a young quarterback, working in some new transfers up front on defense. 13:34 And 13:36 I mean, you can use a lot of words to describe them in this moment. 13:38 They look scary. 13:39 They look scary based on the big play ability. 13:41 Yeah, and I think what makes them scarier is there's still not a finished product. 13:44 Right, totally. 13:45 You know, and you could see that out there today. 13:48 There are still mistakes. 13:50 But clearly, and I saw some fans talking about this online. 13:53 I mean, 13:53 there is a school of thought that

13:55 this is the best De Boer team. 13:57 That he's had in Abama 13:59 since he's been there 14:00 the last couple of years. 14:01 The play calling was pretty balanced. 14:03 It seemed as if it was pretty well tailored to the opponent. 14:06 They knew what they were doing. 14:07 It didn't 14:08 It wasn't like they were making this up on the fly. 14:10 They came up with a script. 14:11 They were able to execute it. 14:12 The other thing that I should add

14:13 on the Kamario Taylor side 14:16 wasn't a boot 14:17 At one point, 14:18 later in this game, I believe 14:20 playing with some turf toe, so dealing with some nagging injuries. 14:23 You know, they're going to be using him a lot this year. 14:25 That's just the way this thing's going to go. 14:27 But 14:27 regardless. 14:28 To your point, I don't think it demeans anything we've seen from Mississippi State. 14:32 So far, they're still a very exciting team. 14:33 They're one of the best stories in the sport right now.

14:36 They just ran into a much better opponent. 14:38 Yeah, they're already outplaying preseason expectations. 14:41 And even though it was at home, even though there was a lot of energy in the stadium, 14:45 the future is super bright in Starkville. 14:49 Ohio State 31, Iowa 14:51 14. 14:52 Yep. 14:54 I mean 14:56 what do you want me to tell you? 14:58 Julian Sayin, Jeremiah Smith 15:00 Ridiculous, 15:02 maybe

15:02 so ridiculous that it's hard to pay attention to other elements of this Ohio State team and some of the lulls that they might have on either side of the ball, but 15:12 I don't know. 15:13 When you have that kind of weapon, it allows you to ignore certain questions you might have about Ohio State, maybe some pass rush questions. 15:21 that aren't actual questions against a team like Iowa. 15:24 But as we get into the meatier portions and meatier matchups that Ohio State has, you know, down the road, October, November, sure, but 15:31 I don't know that any of those teams 15:33 definitively have an answer for Jeremiah Smith. 15:35 And Iowa would be one of those teams with how they've played on defense 15:39 that you would think, okay, maybe they would have some kind of answer to hold him under. 15:43 183 yards. 15:45 Right. 15:46 No,

15:46 they very much did not. 15:47 I mean, they 15:48 so first off, the Iowa game plan was kind of interesting in its own right 15:52 because 15:52 What do we think of when we think of Iowa? 15:54 We think a team that's going to go out there, they're going to play ground and pound, they're going to play defense, they're going to pin you back, they're going to slow it down, they're going to slow it, they' 16:00 Take the air out of the ball. 16:01 It's going to be boring, dumb Kirk Ferentz football. 16:05 In the first quarter, they threw the ball 11 times. 16:08 They ran it six times. 16:10 They actually came out 16:11 trying to air it out a little bit more.

16:13 Yeah, they went against tendency. 16:14 Yeah. 16:14 Now, that backfired early. 16:16 Very early 16:18 on a Hank Brown fumble, 16:20 Iowa State, excuse me, Ohio State gets a short field to start, quick touchdown, off to the races. 16:28 Beyond that, they were not able 16:31 to run the ball at all, which still very much is their calling card as a team 21 carries for 39 yards. 16:38 And when they had to turn it over to Hank Brown, he couldn't really deal with the pressure. 16:42 No. 16:43 Which, again, speaking of things that are unsurprising in week five, this is one of them. 16:47 Mm-hmm.

16:48 Couldn't really deal with it, had a hard time, eventually 16:52 left injured. 16:53 Jeremy Higlinski, for his part, was five for five, led a touchdown drive later in the game. 16:58 But by that point, it was 16:59 the die had been cast. 17:00 Ohio State was just the better team. 17:02 It didn't really feel like they were in any danger here whatsoever. 17:06 Jeremiah Smith, Julian Sayin, the usual cast of characters 17:11 were sensational. 17:13 I mean, 17:14 I just don't know how you cover Jeremiah Smith. 17:16 Like, there's probably a very, very

17:19 small number of people in college football that can come anywhere close to covering him. 17:24 Sure. 17:24 And even still 17:25 , 17:26 This guy is NFL ready. 17:28 Right. 17:28 He's going to get his, whether you can cover him or not. 17:31 It's just a matter of time and a matter of 17:33 when, not if. 17:34 So 17:35 the fact that they are playing 17:36 again at this high of a level against a really good defense, which I still believe Iowa has

17:41 in Iowa City, no less. 17:43 Right. 17:44 This is a dominant showing 3114. 17:46 I don't even know what else to say. 17:47 Like, at halftime, you and I shrugged at each other. 17:50 What are we supposed to say? 17:51 You know, like, because I 17:52 actually had it close at that point, it was close enough within striking distance.

17:56 And we were sort of joking at the fact that they always find their way into a game exactly like this. 18:02 But 18:02 in the end, Ohio State got theirs. 18:04 No, they totally did.

18:06 And, you know, 18:07 there are certain things you can think about. 18:08 You can. 18:09 Wonder aloud, like, yes, like, as you mentioned, is there a team that can, there's no single human, I think, who can just, like, okay, mono a mono against Jeremiah Smith. 18:17 But if there is a game plan involved, if there's a pass rush that forces Julian 18:20 Saiyan to get it out of his hands quicker than he'd like, quicker than 18:24 the routes are developing 18:26 What are the other options through the air that are dependable 18:30 on a high level, whether it's against the better teams in the Big Ten, whether it's in a playoff situation, a Big Ten championship situation 18:35 that 18:36 You know, is 18:36 too much of this offense, Julian

18:39 Saiyan, waiting for Jeremiah Smith to pop open? 18:42 Yeah. 18:43 I don't know. 18:44 I mean, every single team would use the exact same strategy that Ohio State is employing, but. 18:49 It was super impressive 18:51 on the road in a difficult place to play. 18:52 Obviously, Ohio State, the more talented team. 18:54 Also, like the sidebar here is like 18:57 we don't get 18:58 You know, the 18:59 high-profile matchups in each place 19:02 as often as we're sort of used to as these conferences grow.

19:05 So I don't know if you like the Ryan Day 19:06 writing

19:07 the letters to the kids and the children's hospital, and obviously Ohio State being involved in the wave. 19:12 after the first quarter. 19:12 It's just like a lot of cool things that we don't always get to see. 19:16 And 19:16 you get hung up on the like Jeremiah Smith of it all. 19:20 Rightfully so. 19:21 But 19:21 bigger than that, 19:23 it was cool to see a matchup like this, which we don't always get. 19:27 We should stay in the Big Ten.

19:28 Yeah. 19:28 We teased us at the top. 19:30 We talked about 19:32 the reason that we are in the same room, which is Northwestern Penn State. 19:36 Yeah. 19:36 Okay. 19:37 The stadium was awesome. 19:38 The stadium was loud. 19:39 It's brand new. 19:40 I thought they did a marvelous job.

19:43 We had the opportunity to sit in the press patio area, which is sort of along the top part of the stadium 19:49 next to the press box.

19:52 We were each assigned our own valet on the patio. 19:55 We were absolutely not. 19:56 We were assigned sort of a 19:57 sparkling drinks, 19:58 our own patio chair 20:00 that we had. 20:01 We did not, thankfully, have the same issue that some of our 20:05 Friends and colleagues in the press box had, which was 20:08 chairs that were too short, and therefore 20:11 their view of the field was obstructed. 20:13 They had to stack things on the chairs. 20:15 To see

20:16 over, hopefully, Northwestern and Ryanfield can finish.

20:19 I think you need to steer into the illusion that the press patio is a luxurious area where we ate sushi off of models 20:25 as we watched 20:29 Aidan Chiles 20:30 hand the ball off 73 times. 20:32 That's what we did. 20:33 Yeah. 20:35 Northwestern ran the crap out of the ball. 20:37 They did. 20:37 They absolutely ran the crap out of the ball. 20:40 It was an impressive showing on the night where they opened their new stadium 20:46 and, at least for our money, got themselves ranked.

20:50 In the top 25. 20:52 Yeah. 20:52 For our money, that was good enough to 20:55 prove to us that running like 20:57 a version of the Wing 20:59 T 21:00 Against a Big Ten foe that everyone thought was going to be better than him before the start of the year, even though the line was only like three at kickoff, 21:08 to open things up in the manner that they did. 21:10 I thought it was damn impressive. 21:12 Never once was that game in doubt on the Northwestern side. 21:17 It certainly is reason for more questions on the Penn State side. 21:23 I can get into some of that maybe, but I don't want to make the whole show.

21:26 Is there like a big central question of the like, is this plan 21:31 like

21:31 if there were a train looking at three different tunnels through a mountain, like is the central question, is Penn State heading towards the right tunnel for the program? 21:42 Is there an I don't know 21:43 tunnel? 21:43 Yeah, of course. 21:44 I mean, that's 21:45 there an I don't know tunnel because I don't know. 21:47 I think that's where the offensive coordinator was driving. 21:49 Yeah, I don't have flowers here. 21:51 I would give you your flowers 21:52 if I literally had them here.

21:54 Because 21:55 when we did our preview, 21:58 you were 21:59 banging the drum of like, yeah, 22:02 just because they're importing guys that they know from Iowa State doesn't mean that 22:06 those guys are going to be good at Penn State. 22:08 Well, it wasn't just that. 22:09 And I 22:10 I'm not out on Penn State in like the medium or long term. 22:14 I just 22:15 looked at the Penn State roster and who they were likely going to be counting on 22:19 and looking at previous Penn State rosters

22:22 when you 22:22 Watch Abdul Carter like 22:24 terrorize a conference, and you're like, who 22:27 is of that quality on this team on either side of the ball? 22:31 When you watch Tyler Warren, when you watch, 22:32 when you watch those, the game changers, when you watch. 22:35 Katron Allen and Nick Singleton, whatever. 22:38 And just like 22:40 they don't 22:41 have those obvious guys heading into the season. 22:44 And I think there are a lot more questions than just like the top end of the roster when you watch a game like this, whether it's 22:50 the passing attack, whether it's Rocco

22:52 backed, whether it's the offensive line. 22:54 Whether it's the defense adjusting when Northwestern was in Chip Kelly was just toying with them. 22:59 Directly, no, no. 23:00 Directly up the middle, toying with them. 23:02 But it was directly up the middle, but he was also running like wing tee action. 23:06 I mean, it was, yeah, I saw. 23:08 I saw Coach Dan Casey out on social media 23:10 was 23:11 celebrating the use of a play he called Wing Tee Sally, 23:15 which was 23:15 Wing 23:16 T

23:16 a little bit of misdirection. 23:18 We saw that play. 23:18 I mean, it was a cool play to see live. 23:21 It would have been cooler if you were reading for Northwestern than 23:23 you know, my 23:24 shoes are rooting for Penn State. 23:26 Look, 23:28 I'll just come back to this, okay? 23:30 I like Matt Campbell. 23:31 I think Matt Campbell 23:32 is a good coach and probably a really good guy. 23:36 Maybe,

23:38 as I said a week ago, maybe 23:40 there's a reason he was like the eighth choice for this job. 23:43 It could be, sure. 23:45 Maybe that, maybe there's a reason. 23:47 Yeah. 23:47 Why Matt Campbell is the age choice for the eighth choice for the job? 23:51 We'll find out in due time. 23:53 You're at a particular low moment for Penn State fandom after the Wisconsin game. 23:57 Wisconsin seems to be borderline ranked. 23:59 In this moment, after a convincing win against Michigan State. 24:02 And now we've got Northwestern 24:04 coming off of

24:05 the close loss, right? 24:07 If Nick Saban says quality losses are important, the Butt King himself. 24:11 then 24:12 you have to extend, if 24:13 Nick Saban can believe it, quality losses to other conferences 24:16 and 24:17 Northwestern beat down Colorado. 24:20 There's one thing for it to be a quality loss. 24:22 Yeah. 24:23 a close quality loss at home. 24:26 There's another thing to get smoked on the road the way they did 24:30 because that game was not close.

24:32 They had no cohesion. 24:33 Oh, I'm talking about Northwestern's quality lost to Indiana. 24:35 It's quality lost to Indiana. 24:36 I'm stating Northwestern. 24:37 I'm sorry 24:38 I'm still caught up on Penn State. 24:39 That's fine. 24:40 I'm just

24:42 I'm concerned about where this goes the rest of the season because they've got the whiteout game coming up against USC 24:49 that 24:50 almost tackled guys tonight. 24:52 But they almost did to their credit.

24:53 Yeah. 24:54 They 24:54 can play offense, 24:56 not always away from home, which Penn State will definitely have 25:00 working in their favor. 25:02 I'm not sure Penn State's got the offense. 25:05 To go toe to toe with an offense second score. 25:08 Okay. 25:08 Well, USC doesn't like to do great things defensively on the road. 25:14 I just think this is an interesting moment. 25:16 In the Penn State Athletic Department, Pat Kraft 25:20 and the decision he made to fire James Franklin.

25:22 And by the way, James Franklin had run his course at Penn State. 25:25 Sure. 25:25 So I don't even. 25:27 Necessarily 25:27 disagree with that choice. 25:29 And I'm not going to go back and we're not going to relitigate the past here from a year ago. 25:34 But 25:34 suffice to say, there's a lot of writing on this right now on the Penn State side. 25:38 Of course. 25:39 And 25:39 At least from Pat Kraft's perspective, it has to work. 25:42 Penn State football will live on, regardless of who's the coach, 25 years from now.

25:47 Right. 25:48 But for Pat Kraft to retain his employment at Penn State, this needs to work a little bit quicker 25:54 and needs to come together, I would say 25:57 Much quicker than we've seen here in the early going. 25:59 So, still 26:00 time to get things back on track. 26:01 I mean, 26:02 they've got a good chunk of the season in front of them, right? 26:04 They're only 26:05 You know, 26:06 five weeks in. 26:07 But this was not a good showing for Penn State, and

26:10 it was a celebration of Northwestern football. 26:13 So let's give the credit where it's due. 26:15 They won in resounding fashion. 26:16 Yeah, if nothing else, Penn State will get Manny Diaz a raise every three to four years at Duke. 26:22 All right. 26:22 I'm told we had a bunch of Penn State phone calls. 26:26 I don't know how many of them made the reverbs 26:29 this week. 26:29 Shea, our reverb engineer, has informed me that there will be a mega cut, as he referred to it, a mega cut that we will drop out to the Patreon feed. 26:38 come 26:39 Monday 26:39 when we do our next episode.

26:41 But for now, here is your week five 26:45 reverbs. 26:46 Have a listen.

26:46 Hey Ty, hey Dan, I just wanted to co-sign the motion of calling the UNT Tulsa rivalry game as the Flip Cup, not just because of the pregame antics of ESPN's Matt Berry and Chase Daniel, but also because iced coffee at a job interview. 27:01 You is as unprofessional as the referees were. 27:04 Go mean 27:05 green. 27:07 This is Andrew in Houston. 27:09 Jack from Fordville. 27:10 This is Ayush 27:11 from Texas. 27:12 This

27:13 Penn State team. 27:14 Mostly 27:15 doesn't look like they belong to the Big Ten. 27:17 I feel bad that we 27:19 fired James Franklin just to get belted even worse this year. 27:22 We are. 27:22 Did Penn State go from big 27:24 game James to little 27:26 game Matt? 27:27 Just finished watching the end of that pit Virginia 27:29 Tech game, and I think the Nard 27:31 Dog

27:32 just called you guys out for your AP ballot. 27:34 Does Iowa State have a quarterback? 27:37 Total luck now, but a halftime 27:39 eight in Florida, two 27:40 for two 27:40 for 48 27:42 and 27:42 two touchdowns, not 27:44 too bad. 27:44 For 27:45 running back and returned specialists, baby. 27:47 West Virginia fan here, putting out a help

27:50 -wanted ad for anyone that can run a competent defense. 27:54 Everyone seems to be having career days against us from the opposing team. 27:58 Is there anything better 28:00 than the drowned rat version of sad 28:03 Bill Belichick? 28:05 Go Irish. 28:06 For the first time since I was in diapers. 28:08 University of Uganda Soda 28:10 beat in 28:10 Michigan. 28:11 The fans have stormed the field. 28:14 The players have the little

28:15 brown jug. 28:17 The PA announcer is playing Mr. 28:19 Brightsides 28:20 just to rub salt into the wound. 28:23 And it's just been pointed out to me that Bryce Underwood makes more money than the Louisiana purchase. 28:29 I don't understand why so many college football fans in the state of Michigan are. 28:32 So upset today. 28:33 Michigan Maxion 28:34 went 3-0 28:35 today, including a 24-point win for Central Michigan. 28:38 Fire up. 28:39 Thank you, Camario, but your princess is in another castle.

28:42 Roll tide. 28:43 Oh my, Tyler. 28:44 What a great time for you to jump off the Mizzou 28:47 bandwagon. 28:47 I hope y'all keep that same energy with my tigers y'all do all the time. 28:51 Always 28:51 saying we can't win a big game. 28:53 It's good to eat some Gator Meet in Columbia, y'all. 28:56 You remember when Florida was good? 28:57 You know, I've been gotten used to the quality losses, but I think a quality win sounds better. 29:03 M-I-Z, baby. 29:04 So we beat Tulsa, who beats.

29:06 Oklahoma State, who 29:07 beat Oregon, so 29:10 the hogs are still terrible. 29:11 Put some respect on my boy Will Stein's name, Comeback Cats 29:15 2026. 29:17 There's been a lot of weird things going on in college football this weekend, but one thing I did not expect. 29:21 Is for Virginia to let Ashton Daniels look like a Heisman trophy contender. 29:26 I think Cal 29:27 might be even worse than we thought. 29:29 The Golden Bears might need to be downgraded to a lesser metal. 29:32 Like the Copper Bears. 29:33 Who do I call in order to have Jordan Seaton held up for war crimes?

29:37 Did you know there are eight active FBS teams with home winning streaks that are in double digits? 29:43 Did you know that one of those is the New Mexico Lobos? 29:47 an ex 29:48 gonna 29:48 give it to you from 29:49 Air Force 29:50 to Yukon 29:51 to Tennessee 29:52 to whoever the hell else plays today. 29:54 This is the worst college uniforms I've ever worn. 29:58 This is bad. 29:59 We gotta talk to someone about this.

30:02 Which head coach would be the most likely to have a collection of tarot cards? 30:08 And which head coach would be the least likely to have a collection of tarot cards? 30:16 I have no idea. 30:18 My mind goes to PJ Fleck, but he 30:21 he's much more like Radisson conference room 30:24 spouting off like inspirational cliches. 30:27 So I don't think it's him. 30:29 I'm trying to think who 30:31 has like that vibe 30:33 of just like, no, there's stuff going on beyond our control. 30:36 There's stuff floating around, the energy out there. 30:39 I don't know.

30:40 Write in 30:41 the comments. 30:42 Let us know which coach 30:44 to our caller's question 30:46 is most likely to have the tarot cards. 30:48 Also. 30:49 Please write in. 30:50 We're going to get to it a little bit later on in the show. 30:52 Let us know which team you are a fan of 30:55 and how you're feeling after what you saw in week five. 30:59 I'm a fan of blank. 31:01 Tonight

31:02 I am feeling blank. 31:04 Let's get to our next segment though. 31:05 Oh, I'm sorry. 31:06 Could you speak into my goodie 31:08 ear? 31:09 Dan Rubenstein, we call this, am I hearing correctly that? 31:12 Oh, right. 31:13 Yeah. 31:13 No, we're confirming here. 31:15 Am I hearing correctly that Virginia Tech lost on a made 31:20 Field goal against Pitt. 31:21 Lost the game

31:22 35-33 at home. 31:24 Big, big game. 31:25 Yeah. 31:26 Had a caller talk about it. 31:27 A couple callers talk about that game. 31:28 Kick went directly over the 31:31 upright. 31:32 And we didn't have a 31:33 clear sight on 31:34 like a definitive in or out. 31:36 We did not. 31:37 We have the referee who was standing beneath the upright.

31:40 Yeah. 31:40 We have several angles. 31:42 I saw a couple that were straight on. 31:44 It makes it look as if it is good. 31:46 I did see one that is at an angle 31:49 almost 31:50 As the crow flies towards that left upright, 31:54 and from that angle, it did look like it was wide left. 31:57 I 31:58 have no idea whether it was good or not good. 32:01 I was watching on TV. 32:03 like the millions of you listening and watching at home right now.

32:06 It was a good game. 32:08 Unfortunately, Mason Heinschel 32:10 blew out his ACL with a bad hit along the right sideline in the third quarter. 32:15 Pat 32:16 Narduzzi 32:17 wants to be ranked as a result of going to Blacksburg and winning this game. 32:22 Obviously, he's got a point. 32:24 Sure. 32:24 We struggled with where do we put Pitt. 32:26 Yeah. 32:27 If I'm being honest, if we put Pitt in, we got to move another team out. 32:31 We moved a couple of teams out.

32:32 We'll get to that in a few minutes. 32:33 We weren't sure who else we could move out to put Pitt in. 32:36 Right. 32:36 So for the time being, at least. 32:38 in our view, right on the bubble, but 32:41 willing to be impressed, willing to be, I think, swayed 32:46 In week six and beyond. 32:47 You're willing to be wowed. 32:48 You're willing to be seduced. 32:49 You're willing to be flirted with. 32:51 You're willing to have your ears be nibbled by Pat Nardu 32:54 Z

32:54 are on the record here 32:55 And I think that's admirable. 32:56 No, it was an impressive performance from Pitt. 32:58 It's never easy when a quarterback goes down. 33:00 Obviously, a quarterback that Pitt built their season around. 33:04 And we saw last week with Dante Moore in Oregon and a backup coming in and making plays. 33:08 It was Holden Gernerner 33:10 for 33:11 Pitt. 33:11 Obviously, Virginia Tech had the moment at the end of the game. 33:16 Kind of weird, they ran to the right. 33:17 They didn't center the ball at the end of the game.

33:21 I don't know what the answer is in terms of 33:24 Technology to know whether it 33:26 actually 33:27 got slightly in 33:29 we've had like Nintendo games where they have the above angle. 33:33 Now, that's obviously not filmed. 33:35 I don't, this is breaking news here that these are just graphics. 33:38 Do we get a drone? 33:39 You know, a couple dozen feet above? 33:41 What do we get? 33:42 Make the uprights taller. 33:43 Everybody

33:44 use 33:44 lasers. 33:44 Can we use lasers? 33:46 Right. 33:46 The magnets, I don't you know, 33:48 what do I know? 33:49 They've got the chip and the ball now, at least in the NFL. 33:52 Maybe I 33:52 have no idea what the answer is. 33:54 For all intents and purposes, though. 33:56 Yes, the referees ruled that it was no good. 33:59 It is not a reviewable play.

34:01 Right. 34:02 So 34:03 Pick's going to merge the victor here. 34:04 Either way, a fun back and forth. 34:06 Virginia Tech is another one of those teams that. 34:09 You know, 34:10 it's far too early to come to any conclusions. 34:12 And the game was at home. 34:13 It's at night. 34:14 It's Lane Stadium, right? 34:15 It's an ideal circumstance with a quality team like Pitt coming in. 34:19 You know, Grunkmeier for his part

34:21 gave them plenty of offense, obviously, took away some with the turnovers. 34:27 You know, I'm just 34:28 bummed by the Mason Heinschel news, and, you know, all in all, an admirable effort from Pitt, no matter what you think about the ending of the game, to 34:35 rally the troops and to put themselves in position to get a stop to win that game. 34:39 A 34:40 cool, fun ACC Friday night to me with no rooting interest. 34:44 Am I hearing correctly that Notre Dame may have found its running game? 34:48 Against 34:50 surely a high-quality opponent 34:52 that you can judge Notre Dame against. 34:55 Against the North Carolina Tar Heels, Dan. 34:57 Yeah.

34:58 This is a rain-soaked game. 35:00 CJ Carr was the headline. 35:01 CJ Carr accounted for five touchdowns. 35:03 He looked very, very solid. 35:06 The connection that he has with Jordan Faison is one that we will see deep into the season. 35:11 In all likelihood, the playoff. 35:13 We have not seen the last of that. 35:14 But Notre Dame ran for 234 as a team 35:18 in the middle of that game 35:20 when the rain was really pouring down. 35:22 And it did get a little bit closer after halftime 35:25 when it was 21-20

35:27 after 35:27 North Carolina, to their credit, returned the second half kickoff for a touchdown. 35:33 Notre Dame needed to turn to somebody to help get their ground game going, which is not something they've been very good at. 35:38 Enter the guy that I told you about on our Wednesday preview, Jonaz Walton, the freshman. 35:44 Jonaz Walton had 120 yards, 5'9 35:48 , 215. 35:49 He's a ball of fire. 35:52 I like him. 35:53 Reminds me of a little bit of Jadarian Price. 35:55 Yeah. 35:56 Him combined with some of the other guys in that backfield, whether it's Nolan James, whether it's Aeneas Williams. 36:02 I'm curious to see if they can continue to develop.

36:05 This is really the part of that offense that has been lacking more than anything else right now. 36:09 It has been the push by the offensive line. 36:12 It has been finding guys that can get it done on the ground. 36:15 So, in a game like this, on the road, they win 37, 26, whatever your final was.

36:21 But I thought their ability to run the football in this one, again, given the weather, given everything, I was impressed by that. 36:28 Yeah. 36:29 I mean. 36:30 Impressed to the point where you feel confident 36:33 when they play, I guess, whatever your opinion is of SMU or BYU in this moment. 36:38 Obviously, they're going to be judged again. 36:39 About, or 36:40 they'll be judged by what they do against Miami and whatever they do if they're able to make the playoff.

36:46 When you take these guys, obviously, the run game was there. 36:49 When you take these guys in a vacuum, many of these guys 36:53 that they've been working into 36:55 the rotation, is that high-level 36:58 individual ability 36:59 there to 37:00 you? 37:02 With any of these running backs for Notre Dame? 37:04 Well, 37:04 I need to see more. 37:05 It sounds like a leading question. 37:06 I don't know.

37:07 You've watched more of them than I have. 37:08 Yeah, I don't know. 37:10 I know that. 37:11 Jonaz Walton, in my opinion, gives them a little bit more of that home run 37:15 ability. 37:16 And I think if you're going to try and build any kind of 37:20 Threatening rushing attack. 37:21 You need to have that. 37:22 Sure. 37:22 We haven't seen it all that much thus far.

37:25 If nothing more, he gives them a third option that they can work into the rotation that they can use to keep guys fresh. 37:30 It's a long season.

37:31 Notre Dame hopes to be playing deep into the year. 37:33 Yeah. 37:34 So, if nothing more, it's a nice rotation that they can build on. 37:36 And CJ Carr made huge plays. 37:38 Obviously, it's tough to throw in the rain. 37:40 He was able to make those plays 37:42 both with his arm and his legs 37:44 early on. 37:45 Uh, North Carolina fought back. 37:46 This was a game 37:47 like deep into the third quarter. 37:48 Notre Dame pulled away late.

37:50 I don't know what the status of Leonard Moore was. 37:52 It looked like he was dinged up late. 37:53 He collided late in the game. 37:55 He 37:55 left the game. 37:56 He did leave on his own power. 37:58 So I, you know, hopefully he'll be okay. 38:00 I'll be waiting to see what the official update is on Monday 38:04 when they speak to the media. 38:05 But 38:06 a nice win for Notre Dame. 38:10 Am

38:11 I correct in hearing 38:13 that Purdue knocked off Illinois? 38:15 Yeah. 38:16 Yeah. 38:16 You're definitely. 38:17 In Champaign. 38:18 In Champaign. 38:19 It's been a weird year for the OINI. 38:22 And

38:22 I was higher on them than, look, if I got like the Penn State thing right and some other teams right, I definitely whiffed on Illinois. 38:30 I definitely thought they were going to be of. 38:32 Higher quality on defense

38:35 given the changes and overhauling things 38:38 than they've shown early on. 38:39 I thought they would be a little bit more balanced on offense. 38:41 Right now, they're just sort of 38:43 Poor man's Ohio State, just because they have like a very specific connection with Colin Dixon and Katen Hauser. 38:50 Purdue lit the defense up. 38:52 They really did. 38:53 They went straight at them 38:54 through the air. 38:55 I think it was Wasim, the receiver, who went off for them. 38:59 Ryan Brown. 39:00 I mean, he plays confidently every week, whether or not he has earned the right to do so or not.

39:04 But, you know, threw on UCLA a couple weeks ago, through 39:06 on Illinois, obviously. 39:08 And this is on the road with the 39:10 $20 million 39:11 screen looming above the field, looming above the action. 39:15 I think they probably needed to go bigger, if I had to guess, is 39:18 where Illinois came up short in this one. 39:20 But 39:21 No, Purdue. 39:22 I mean, look, it's 39:23 how many games had they lost in a row in the Big Ten? 39:25 It was like an 18-game losing streak, something crazy.

39:28 A 19-game Big Ten 39:30 losing streak, and a 23-game drought against the Power Four. 39:33 There you go. 39:34 So. 39:34 I'm always happy with breakthroughs. 39:36 And we saw it with Mizzou, you know, breaking through against the ranked team 39:39 after 39:40 they struggled against 39:41 Power Four teams with winning records or whatever it was last year. 39:44 And 39:44 good for Purdue, man. 39:46 Build on it.

39:47 Am I correct in hearing that Florida state beat Virginia by 31 points? 39:52 It's so many points. 39:54 And 39:55 it is the most Virginia thing possible. 39:57 To start the season as, like, ooh, Virginia's kind of scary. 40:01 Look what they did to NC State. 40:03 They overwhelmed them on defense. 40:04 They ran straight at him. 40:05 Beau Pribula is going to be a problem. 40:07 He's going to make people pay with his legs. 40:09 He 40:09 might hit some shots over the top.

40:11 And then it hasn't been as 40:13 dominant since week one, which is why we like to throw out week one. 40:17 And then 40:18 they do nothing on offense against Florida state. 40:21 But it wasn't even just that. 40:23 It was a Florida state defense 40:26 that 40:27 is credited with 10 sacks 40:30 in this football game. 40:32 I mean, Ashton Daniels, for his part, love him or hate him. 40:36 He plays hard. 40:38 He led the team with 136 rushing yards.

40:42 He accounted for five touchdowns in total, which is a record. 40:45 Right. 40:47 He had a really good game, and I think this is the way they need to use him. 40:50 They need to use him in much more of a dual-threat role. 40:53 He is a bigger quarterback, you can put him on the move. 40:55 I don't think you need to worry about him breaking down, right? 40:58 Not always the best passer, but this is a Virginia team with a pretty good defense. 41:02 At least we thought 41:03 a pretty good defense. 41:04 It's a veteran Virginia team. 41:06 Maybe the offense is very specific. 41:09 And only

41:09 has a couple tools in the toolbox, but defensively, 41:12 we felt pretty good about Virginia coming into this game. 41:15 So I think it's meaningful 41:16 On the Florida state side, I'm not going to say they've rescued the season or anything crazy, but I think they've at least done enough here by beating Virginia to prove that 41:26 Hey, this is probably a bull team. 41:27 Hey, this is probably going to be a team that's a pain in the ass in the ACC. 41:30 And 41:31 it's not exactly like the full thing has come off the rails, at least not yet. 41:35 No, and look, if you're a Florida state fan, 41:37 the bar is pretty low in this moment, obviously, with 41:40 where the program is. 41:41 And you want the team to play with fire, you want the team to game plan, you want the team to do the basic stuff well.

41:47 And against a quality team, I don't know to what extent Virginia is. 41:50 Florida state showed that. 41:52 And again, you hope it's a building block. 41:54 You're not sure with what their schedule looks like. 41:57 But for them to do that against Virginia, 42:01 It's a sign of life, and I appreciate that. 42:04 Speaking of the ACC, am I correct in hearing that Wake Forest 42:07 got to nearly 60 points against Stanford today? 42:10 Just in one day. 42:11 In one day. 42:12 Man, 42:14 Stanford will, like, they're a quality personal trainer.

42:17 Like, think of the different guys who have gotten exercise against Stanford this year. 42:22 Gio Lopez was trainer to the stars today. 42:25 He had, what, five total touchdowns? 42:27 Something crazy like that. 42:29 Yeah, I mean, he was. 42:30 265 through the air with two touchdowns. 42:32 He ran for 88 yards and had three scores. 42:35 This was Wake's largest ACC victory. 42:38 They had a 519 to 197 42:42 yardage advantage. 42:44 Stanford managed only 49 rushing yards. 42:47 I'm not going to sit here and read stats.

42:48 It was a dominant effort. 42:50 On the wake side, 42:52 I know people 42:53 have 42:54 called in. 42:54 I know people have written in. 42:56 We read all the messages, people saying 42:58 rank wake to cowards, 43:00 calling us cowards to wake. 43:02 We'll get to that point of the show here in a little bit. 43:04 We'll talk it through and give you our logic 43:06 either with or against.

43:07 But 43:08 I do find 43:09 it an interesting bell weather, a sign of the times, that amid this excitement, 43:16 Amid a good wake team 43:18 with an exciting quarterback 43:19 who 43:20 at least I thought would be promising given that he was reunited with his former OC 43:24 from their South Alabama days. 43:26 Yeah, but still had a disappointing stretch in 43:28 North Carolina. 43:29 Yep. 43:30 Amid all of that, the fans online are worried that he's going to be lured away by a bigger program next year.

43:36 Four schools in four years? 43:38 Yeah. 43:39 They're worried 43:40 that Geo could be on. 43:41 Now, if I'm Geo. 43:43 Stay where you're at, dog. 43:44 Right. 43:45 Like, stay where you're at. 43:46 Just follow that guy around. 43:47 He knows how to do it. 43:48 Well, maybe they're a package deal. 43:49 Yeah.

43:50 Follow that guy. 43:51 Wherever he goes, that's where you want to be because it seems like he's getting the best out of you. 43:55 Sure. 43:56 Wake is 43:57 off to a fabulous start, 57 44:00 -3. 44:01 We've heard it from enough people 44:03 to 44:03 like 44:03 rank Wake, you cowards. 44:06 I am going to full on 44:08 throw cold water on the notion that people should be paying us to rank Wake Forest.

44:13 I think that's inappropriate. 44:14 I think it's unethical. 44:16 But 44:17 if people 44:18 do do this, 44:20 It could 44:20 land us as the subject of an investigation on Pablo Torre 44:24 finds out 44:25 , 44:25 which I think would do great for exposure 44:28 for the show. 44:29 For the numbers, yeah.

44:30 So, 44:30 you know, you take the good with the bad. 44:32 I get kicked out of the poll, though. 44:33 I read the code of conduct. 44:34 Ah, I 44:35 see, I get that. 44:37 And we get kicked out of the poll. 44:38 But we get the Pablo expose, we get a few 44:41 thou, I, you know, you gotta weigh it. 44:45 And 44:45 I'm on the side of 44:47 don't pay us to rank wake in this moment.

44:49 No, but 44:50 It might change in a couple of days. 44:52 I don't know. 44:53 I got to look at a car payment. 44:54 I got to figure it out. 44:55 Am I hearing correctly that West Virginia and Iowa State combined for nearly 1,100 yards and 87 points? 45:00 This game was nuts, by the way. 45:02 Yeah. 45:02 It's 45:04 not a lot of defense. 45:05 It's what, Aidan Flora? 45:06 Yeah, Aidan Flora is going to get a dude alert here in a little bit.

45:09 I'll tell you this, Ty. 45:11 The Iowa State offensive coordinator was aiding Flora with those play calls. 45:14 You know what I'm saying? 45:15 So 45:15 Aidan Flora 45:17 for people who aren't steeped in all things Iowa State. 45:19 Yeah. 45:20 Aidan Flora is a running back. 45:22 They did two halfback passes for touchdowns. 45:24 At one point in the game, he had two touchdowns. 45:27 Well, he finished with two touchdowns. 45:28 At one point in the game, he had more touchdowns than.

45:30 The actual quarterback of the team. 45:32 Yeah. 45:32 So clearly, dude alert is forthcoming for him. 45:36 This is back and forth. 45:37 This was last team with the ball. 45:38 I think 45:39 on our 45:39 run 45:40 the 45:40 board. 45:41 I don't know what the line closed at, but in our Pick'em game, we had it at West Virginia plus three and a half, which is pretty much right on. 45:49 Look, if you're a West Virginia fan, even if you're an Iowa State fan, defense

45:54 a problem. 45:55 Right. 45:57 Zach Alley on the West Virginia side 46:00 needs to figure some stuff out. 46:02 It is a question of 46:04 what does the rest of the season look 46:06 like for West Virginia with respect to bull eligibility and that type of thing. 46:12 I don't know if we're in a position at Midnight Eastern 46:16 or 46:16 12:45 a. 46:18 m. 46:18 Eastern

46:19 to go into what the rest of the season looks like for West Virginia. 46:22 That's a Monday show topic. 46:23 Right. 46:24 But 46:24 Let me give the credit to Iowa State. 46:26 Oh, yeah. 46:27 Because Iowa State had a full line change. 46:29 Matt Campbell took all of those guys with him to Penn State to lose. 46:34 Jimmy Rogers 46:35 brought in a full line change, his own guys, 46:37 Jalen Rayner, Aidan Flora, etc. 46:40 etc.

46:41 And I don't know what the future holds for them either, but they're plucky as hell. 46:44 This is a nice win. 46:45 Yeah, absolutely. 46:46 It was back and forth. 46:47 It was fun, a lot of speed. 46:48 West Virginia ran the hell out of the ball as well. 46:51 I mean, obviously Michael Hawkins is, you know, a a walking explosive play or a running explosive play. 46:56 But West Virginia, not alone in this, but 46:59 They are a defense away from being 47:02 a little more interesting. 47:04 Like, if they were to go to the doctor 47:06 and, you know, like you go to the doctor, and your doctor says, Well, how often do you like, how often do you drink?

47:10 Is it like heavy? 47:10 Is it moderate? 47:11 West Virginia needs to get to the point where they play defense socially, right? 47:15 It's not often. 47:17 I guess socially, I get a stop or two. 47:19 Yeah. 47:20 Yeah. 47:20 That's where West Virginia needs to be in order to take that next step, because it wasn't happening today. 47:24 I got two more on my list. 47:26 We can, it 47:27 you can tell me if anything else jumped out to you that we didn't list here. 47:29 My hearing correctly that the little brown jug is now going back to Minnesota.

47:33 So 47:34 you're not going to believe this. 47:35 But 47:37 Michigan struggled on offense. 47:39 Okay, I'm writing this down. 47:40 Minnesota also 47:41 at times 47:42 kind of struggled on offense. 47:43 Write this down as well. 47:44 I believe half of Michigan's points came from a defensive play. 47:48 Correct. 47:49 Actually, a super impressive pick

47:50 six. 47:51 And 47:53 I like 47:54 to have fun 47:55 at the expense of the PJ Fleck 47:58 experience. 47:59 I can't hate on the fun he seems to be having coaching Minnesota football. 48:05 And 48:07 I. 48:07 I don't know if you saw the video of him like 48:09 pouring the jug water on himself 48:13 and I think he had two crowd surfing moments

48:15 one on 48:16 Was it like big 48:17 noon? 48:18 He did a crowdsurfing moment, and then after the game, 48:21 he jumped into a crowdsurf moment in the locker room. 48:24 Like, I think he's nuts. 48:26 Oh, he's definitely not. 48:27 I think he's lost it. 48:28 And 48:29 he's amusing 48:31 from the outside. 48:32 I don't know what it's like being

48:34 in that locker room. 48:35 Yeah. 48:36 It seems like they're playing for him. 48:38 Yeah. 48:38 But he's definitely a live wire, and he's definitely entertaining us here through 48:44 at least the first couple weeks of the season. 48:45 And look, 48:46 we're talking about the coach, but the coach didn't make a single 48:48 Play, and it was the players who made the plays, and the pass rush overwhelmed Michigan at times. 48:52 And Michigan's a whole other conversation. 48:54 I don't know if we're having that conversation tonight or we're having it later on. 48:57 in the week as we evaluate where Michigan stands heading into October or as we enter into October.

49:03 Minnesota made plays on defense. 49:05 They rushed 49:06 Bryce Underwood 49:07 super 49:08 Effectively, they overwhelmed the Michigan offensive line. 49:11 They made plays on defense. 49:13 They made enough plays on offense. 49:15 It wasn't a clean game on offense for Minnesota. 49:17 But this is a team that has struggled against 49:20 You know, not some, but like 49:21 basically all of the top of the Big Ten these past couple years as it's expanded. 49:26 And for them to break through in this manner, now it's not a breakthrough because he hasn't been there for

49:31 only a couple 49:32 years. 49:33 It's cool, man. 49:34 You can't hate on it. 49:35 Minnesota is probably a little bit better than I thought they'd be. 49:39 Obviously, a down moment against Mississippi State a couple weeks ago, but sure 49:43 be expected with 49:44 the heights of that offense. 49:47 Very cool. 49:48 Very cool moment. 49:48 Win your clunkers. 49:49 There was like a weird explanation from PJ Fleck about why he didn't go for two.

49:53 He's like, I don't go for two until the fourth quarter. 49:55 I was like, it was the fourth quarter, PJ. 49:57 But that's okay. 49:58 It was in the shadow of a big emotional moment. 50:01 I mean, if you told me tomorrow that 50:02 PJ Fleck's living on a different timeline, sure, you know, that he's just like an imposter in this universe, I would believe it. 50:08 Because 50:09 he's definitely cut from a different cloth. 50:11 But look, 50:12 I'll go back to what I said after they won that game a week ago. 50:15 Yeah. 50:17 Physically, in that Washington game.

50:21 Physically, they were the more imposing side. 50:24 Yeah, but it's Washington. 50:26 I understand it's Washington. 50:27 Yeah. 50:27 And maybe we can talk about that next if you want. 50:30 Sure. 50:31 But physically, going into a game with Michigan, a team that I think prides itself on its physicality and is clear that they're trying to build around that 50:38 for better or worse. 50:40 Minnesota 50:40 again 50:41 showed me that they're not going to get pushed around. 50:43 No.

50:44 Doesn't mean they're going to win the Big Ten. 50:46 I don't want to go crazy. 50:47 You know, I sometimes get a little crazy with my Minnesota thoughts, but 50:51 if we just keep it right here. 50:53 Congratulate them on the bank. 50:54 Stay in the moment, man. 50:55 Stay in the moment and say, look, their physicality remains oppressive for a second straight week. 50:59 I think 50:59 that's a healthy takeaway. 51:01 It's great. 51:01 Definitely. 51:02 My final list item here is

51:06 I had to double-check this one, okay? 51:08 So, full disclosure: Shay, who cuts the reverbs, sent me this note. 51:13 I didn't believe it when I saw it. 51:16 Okay, 51:16 I went out, of course. 51:19 To the 51:20 digital sphere of record, X the Everything app 51:23 , 51:24 to see if there was anything written about it. 51:26 There was, I still didn't believe it. 51:29 And then I went out to various websites. 51:32 I saw it written about in more than one place.

51:34 I was like, damn, I guess this actually happened. 51:36 Jim Moore 51:37 Jr. 51:37 fired as defensive coordinator during the game. 51:40 Yeah. 51:40 At Colorado State. 51:42 So the backstory is he retained Tyson Summers, who was the interim coach at Colorado State after they got rid of Jay Norvell 51:50 a year ago. 51:50 Retained him as defensive coordinator, had a co 51:53 -DC 51:53 alongside him. 51:55 But

51:56 if you've paid any attention whatsoever to Colorado State football, the last couple of weeks of defensive football have not 52:02 been there, right? 52:03 This one was not much better. 52:05 Oregon stayed nearly 400 yards by halftime. 52:09 It was at that point that reporters started noticing that it wasn't Tyson Summers with the play sheet. 52:13 Actually, they couldn't find him at all. 52:15 Instead, it was Kenny McClendon. 52:17 Who is the co-DC? 52:19 So there was some speculation as to, well, 52:21 what does this mean? 52:23 I was hesitant to even jot down anything because I didn't know. 52:26 You just don't hear about guys getting fired mid-game that much, Dan.

52:29 It's true. 52:30 But then I saw from our friend Pete Nakos over at On3 52:33 : 52:33 After the game, Colorado State head coach Jim Mora 52:36 announced that defensive coordinator Tyson Summers 52:38 Was relieved of his play 52:40 calling duties and is no longer with the program 52:43 effective immediately. 52:44 It is a Lane Kiff and Tarmax situation. 52:47 Except the tarmac was the football stadium. 52:49 Was the sideline, was the booth, yeah. 52:50 It was

52:50 the football stadium. 52:52 Yeah, you know what? 52:53 Efficient, right? 52:54 If you're gonna fire the guys 52:56 and you don't wanna hear them on your headset, I don't 52:57 did you see the 52:59 There was 53:00 a very easy lip read 53:02 situation with Jim Mora Jr. 53:04 on the sideline. 53:05 It was basically 53:06 how

53:06 the F 53:07 did we make the same effing mistake for the second week in a row? 53:12 Just 53:13 Yelling it into his headset. 53:15 And I was like, ooh, 53:16 time 53:16 times is tough for Colorado State. 53:19 And 53:20 I 53:20 You know, I think it's a place you can win. 53:22 I think it's an interesting place that 53:23 they've had offensive success there.

53:25 Obviously, 53:25 they've been in football there. 53:26 They've invested in football. 53:27 They're now in the Pac-12. 53:29 And this is not a. 53:30 Like a well-oiled machine of an Oregon State program. 53:33 This is a new coach. 53:34 This is new quarterback transfer. 53:35 Obviously, 53:37 a budding superstar in Jesse Legree 53:39 out wide, who again 53:40 went off

53:41 essentially right away against this terrible Colorado State defense. 53:45 So 53:45 I think the story here is both like the ridiculousness of Tyson Summers, who's a name that people are familiar with, 53:52 and also 53:53 like Oregon State, man, moving the ball, moving the ball, making plays, moving the ball. 53:57 All right. 53:58 Write in. 53:59 I'm a fan of blank. 54:00 Yeah. 54:01 Right now, I'm feeling blank. 54:03 I'm going to get to that in a second. 54:05 Other things that jumped out to you, Dan?

54:07 Other things that jumped out to you this weekend, other 54:10 than the weird astronaut helmets that Houston was going for? 54:13 You know, I'm mixed. 54:15 I kind of like what they were going for. 54:17 So they're playing UCF. 54:18 They call it the space game because of the connection with NASA and all that, which is cool. 54:21 It's a cool theme for a game. 54:23 Absolutely. 54:24 And the. 54:25 Baby blue unis that UCF has are awesome. 54:29 Whenever they put those into play, they didn't have theirs on, but Houston was wearing their 54:33 Helmets that look like they're astronaut helmets.

54:36 Right. 54:36 It was, if you can picture the, I guess it's a visor, right? 54:39 If you can picture like the visor where you can't see the face, it's a reflective visor. 54:43 So that was kind of 54:44 It was above the face mask of the football helmet, so it may 54:48 and then it was sort of white and shiny behind it, like the lighter color of an astronaut's helmet. 54:53 So it kind of looked like 54:55 A football man was emerging from an astronaut's house. 54:58 Yeah, I didn't like it. 55:00 I didn't. 55:00 I mean, I appreciate the swing. 55:02 I was kind of into it.

55:04 I appreciate the creativity. 55:06 Yeah. 55:06 I do. 55:07 I didn't like looking at it. 55:09 Okay. 55:10 And maybe I'm just old and 55:11 crotchy. 55:12 I didn't like looking at a majority of this game early on. 55:14 It was kind of an ugly back and forth. 55:16 But 55:16 good for Houston for getting it done, for making the plays that they made, and UCF obviously now 55:20 Playing with their starting quarterback.

55:21 And, you know, I've had like a weird up and down season, but good for Houston for getting it done at home. 55:26 Maybe they should wear red more often. 55:28 I think that might be the move. 55:30 I like the shade of blue, but you get away from it too often. 55:33 I don't know. 55:34 That stood out to me 55:36 real 55:36 weird game out west, the NBC game 55:39 USC Washington. 55:40 Yeah, man. 55:41 Look, good for USC for winning this game. 55:43 It came down to it.

55:45 Washington had opportunities late, and USC came through with a defensive stop. 55:48 I'll pause for effect there. 55:50 USC came through with a defensive stop. 55:53 The game also featured all sorts of strange moments, including a USC 55:58 defensive effort in which they looked like they were. 56:02 Going through the motions as somebody was running through a drill, in which you were supposed to like kind of shove somebody as they're running through a gauntlet. 56:09 Gauntlet. 56:11 Where two USC players lightly shoved a Washington, I think, tight end 56:16 as he ran down the sideline 56:17 and did not affect his stride. 56:19 You know what it is 56:20 like?

56:21 Have you played Mario Kart when you go over one of those zippers and it just gives you a boost? 56:25 Yes. 56:25 It wasn't as if they tried to slow him down. 56:28 Instead, it was as if they made him faster. 56:30 Like a couple little atta boys. 56:32 Yeah, just a little bit of like a backslap. 56:34 That 56:35 was good. 56:37 I

56:38 consistently don't know if I could stomach the experience of having either DeMon Williams or Jayden Maiava as my quarterback. 56:47 They're just 56:48 tough.

56:48 And 56:49 I've been critical of my own quarterback. 56:50 You've been critical of your quarterbacks. 56:52 But when you watch them, you're like, that's Jade Mayava throwing off his back foot. 56:55 Yeah. 56:56 Yet again, that's Jayden Maiava like 30% 56:58 too casual for the moment and the pocket, yet again. 57:02 And like, I just don't know if DeMon Williams can see the field. 57:06 He is constantly like. 57:07 Peering over and 57:09 trying 57:10 to get, you know, free to look downfield and making some super questionable decisions

57:15 These two teams are kind of broken in unique and interesting ways. 57:19 Yeah, I've been contemplating putting together 57:22 some sort of group. 57:24 We could call it 57:25 maybe like 57:26 The pantheon of the backfoot all-stars. 57:29 Jayden Maiava is probably in that conversation. 57:31 Certainly, Rocco 57:32 Becht. 57:33 Yeah. 57:33 Rocco Becht might be. 57:35 And both late, yeah.

57:36 Yeah, well, ra-ya, Rocco is 57:38 inaccurate 57:39 sailing the ball high, leaving it 57:41 short, late 57:42 Double clutching 57:44 as I posted online, it wouldn't surprise me if we've got a bit of a Yip 57:47 situation, sure, 57:48 not a full-blown Steve Sachs, Steve, or a Chuck Knobloch situation 57:53 with the Yips where they can't throw. 57:55 Just where he's afraid to. 57:57 Maybe the tip passes. 57:59 Maybe something has gotten in his head where he's just

58:02 Overthinking it when he's out there because he's playing too slow right now. 58:05 Hey, good news. 58:05 They get to play each other next week. 58:06 They do get to play each other next week. 58:08 There were Fire Link and Riley chants from the crowd today 58:11 at USC heading into the half. 58:13 Yeah. 58:14 I again, I said 58:15 times is tough for 58:16 Colorado. 58:17 Times is tough for SC. 58:18 Even in a winning effort, they win that game.

58:21 Relatively low scoring given where USC has been, but a win is a win. 58:25 Good for the Trojans for coming out with a 58:27 W. 58:28 The only other thing that I'll mention, then we're going to get to the AP vote. 58:32 Miami won 41-13 58:34 over Clemson. 58:34 Yes. 58:35 So Tait Reynolds actually threw for a fair amount of yardage in this game. 58:38 Yeah. 58:39 And 58:40 I didn't think it looked all that bad. 58:41 I thought he was tough.

58:42 Looked tough. 58:43 Looked like he improved since the last time I saw him. 58:47 I think the defense did whatever it could do to try and keep them in this game. 58:51 They just didn't have the offense. 58:53 to go toe to toe with Miami here. 58:55 Miami, again, 58:57 the more physical team. 58:59 This is Crystal Ball. 59:01 This is exactly what this is. 59:03 Mark Fletcher played. 59:04 Obviously, Malachi Toney 59:05 was terrific.

59:08 They had to deal with some injuries up front. 59:10 Yeah, like 59:10 Miami. 59:11 The bye week 59:13 is coming at a really, really good time for them. 59:16 Because of some of the injuries that they have. 59:17 So 59:18 the Miami win, I thought to go on the road to Memorial Stadium, 59:21 that was impressive. 59:22 By the way, 59:22 the tone you have with Clemson. 59:24 Is like the tone would you have

59:26 like, you know, like 59:26 Miami beat up on Maryland, but like good for 59:29 Maryland like fought 59:30 in there. 59:30 Like, 59:31 this is where we're at, though. 59:32 Like 59:32 , 59:32 You know, good for Clemson. 59:34 Clemson stood in there 59:35 in a way that you 59:36 describe

59:37 like 59:37 NC State or Wake Forest, and that's 59:39 that's the shape. 59:40 No, I listen. 59:41 Yeah, I 59:42 How else are you supposed to describe them at this point? 59:44 They were tough. 59:45 They made plays. 59:45 But yeah, you're talking about like a Citrus Bowl. 59:48 I also would be remiss if I didn't mention the overtime game between Kentucky and South Carolina. 59:52 Oh, man. 59:53 Great ending.

59:53 Yeah. 59:54 This was a great ending. 59:56 Came down to the wire, went to overtime. 01:00:00 First, 01:00:01 South Carolina scores, then 01:00:03 Kentucky scores. 01:00:04 Will Stein holds up the two fingers. 01:00:06 There it is. 01:00:07 Yeah. 01:00:07 Holds up two finger. 01:00:08 We're going for two in the win. 01:00:09 Seems like last point.

01:00:10 It's uncontroversial decision. 01:00:12 If you're going to have to go for two anyway in the second overtime after you score, you might as well do it now. 01:00:17 That's why you take defense. 01:00:18 Right. 01:00:19 So, yes, Kenny Minchey 01:00:22 gets the ball over the goal line, not once, but twice. 01:00:25 First to score the touchdown in overtime, then to win the game. 01:00:28 They end up winning by one. 01:00:29 Kentucky having a really nice start to the Will Stein era. 01:00:32 Definitely. 01:00:33 You know, I think they're improving. 01:00:34 I think they've shown week in and week out that.

01:00:37 the plan that they have, at least on offense, is coming together. 01:00:41 I'm curious to see what they look like the rest of the way. 01:00:44 I think they're one of those teams where you go to Lexington and 01:00:46 there could be some weird stuff that goes down. 01:00:48 Hopefully, it's better than it was against Alabama. 01:00:50 Sure. 01:00:51 But I also think they've grown a lot in the last couple of weeks. 01:00:53 Yeah. 01:00:54 I mean, look, it wasn't 01:00:55 anywhere near a clean game for Kentucky. 01:00:57 Obviously, Norfolk, South Carolina, who gave up a pretty comfortable lead in this one. 01:01:01 Lenore

01:01:02 Sellers made plays, they made plays on the ground. 01:01:04 Kentucky is 01:01:06 in desperate need to protect Kenny Minchey more. 01:01:09 He was under duress 01:01:10 quite a bit from the South Carolina pass rush. 01:01:12 They were pretty bad on early downs in this game. 01:01:15 They couldn't really run the ball consistently. 01:01:17 But again, winning is way better than losing, especially on the road, especially for a first-year coach, a quarterback who hasn't started meaningful games. 01:01:27 The confidence with which Kenny Minchey plays in the system, like the game-winning 01:01:33 or the game-winning, I was gonna say 01:01:34 touchdown throw, but the two-point conversion throw, 01:01:37 fully in rhythm.

01:01:38 It was Kenny Minchey

01:01:39 taking the snap, and he was like, I know exactly where the tight end is going to be in the back of the end zone, and I know there's not going to be a South Carolina player there 01:01:45 because he had thrown into the South Carolina defense earlier. 01:01:48 And news, South Carolina, has had some issues figuring out where to be against good passing attacks 01:01:53 and 01:01:54 whether it was on touchdowns, whether it was on throws downfield. 01:01:57 Kenny Minchey was like, Yep, this is where he's going. 01:01:59 This is where the ball's going, and we're going to make it happen. 01:02:02 And so, 01:02:03 whatever your opinion is 01:02:04 of 01:02:05 like

01:02:06 Texas AM at this moment, which is probably not where it was heading into the Kentucky game. 01:02:11 You win. 01:02:12 Great. 01:02:13 We've got a bunch of folks here who chimed in. 01:02:16 If you are watching out on YouTube, Dan, you monitor the YouTube feed. 01:02:20 Yes. 01:02:20 I've been monitoring our friends over on TikTok as well as what. 01:02:24 Folks have had to say out 01:02:25 an ex 01:02:25 the everything 01:02:25 app. 01:02:26 We ask everybody

01:02:28 on a Saturday night to tell us who you're a fan of, how you're feeling right now. 01:02:33 Yes. 01:02:33 Our friend over at Punt and Rally, great website. 01:02:36 Check out puntandrally. 01:02:37 com, says, I'm a Notre Dame fan. 01:02:39 Right now, I'm feeling hopeful about a rushing attack 01:02:42 with freshman Jonaz Walton. 01:02:45 We 01:02:45 got someone who says, I'm a Michigan fan right now. 01:02:47 I'm feeling like 2014. 01:02:48 Ouch. 01:02:50 Ouch.

01:02:50 There's a lot going on 01:02:52 with Michigan. 01:02:52 Yeah. 01:02:53 I'm a Mizzou 01:02:54 fan.

01:02:54 I'm feeling like a massive weight is off my shoulders, finally beating a ranked team, as he said earlier. 01:02:59 Why not? 01:03:00 I'm a Florida fan. 01:03:01 Right now, I'm feeling like spending my playoff ticket money on some shoes or something. 01:03:06 I'm an AM fan right now. 01:03:08 I'm feeling carefully optimistic about us winning eight or more games. 01:03:11 Okay.

01:03:12 Okay. 01:03:13 I'm a Pitt fan, feeling grateful our head coach isn't James Franklin or Matt Campbell. 01:03:18 I am right there with you, sir. 01:03:19 Thank you, Grant, for that. 01:03:22 Sam says, I'm a Northwestern fan. 01:03:23 I'm feeling gobsmacked. 01:03:25 Good word, about our new stadium 01:03:27 and exhilarated about our gameplay. 01:03:30 Yep. 01:03:31 And let's go one more here. 01:03:33 David says, I'm a Miami fan. 01:03:35 I'm happy to see them go into an opponent's house and beat them up, even with all the injuries.

01:03:39 What do we got out there? 01:03:42 In the comments, in YouTube comments. 01:03:45 I don't know what somebody somebody said 01:03:47 that they felt that BYU was blue 01:03:50 Iowa. 01:03:52 Somebody was just happy Iowa State was mentioned. 01:03:55 I'm a BYU fan, and I just realized we're just Iowa with a different logo. 01:03:59 So there's a lot of that after Bear 01:04:00 Bachmeyer, I think, threw for two 01:04:02 points-some odd yards per attempt. 01:04:05 By the way, in that game, LJ Martin also beat up. 01:04:07 I don't have

01:04:07 a specific 01:04:09 update on him. 01:04:10 Carries, right? 01:04:11 Right. 01:04:12 So we hope he's able to bounce back. 01:04:14 Hopefully, 01:04:15 I saw a bunch of. 01:04:17 Florida state fans not knowing what to do with their hands and emotions after coming through against a quality ACC. 01:04:23 I mean, 01:04:23 we're right there with you guys. 01:04:25 Yes. 01:04:25 We don't know what to do either.

01:04:26 Yeah. 01:04:27 Saw some Sad Cal fans. 01:04:29 Which is gonna 01:04:29 happen. 01:04:30 JKS was hurt in that one, unfortunately. 01:04:32 It took a shot to the head. 01:04:33 So 01:04:34 a lot of sad Cal fans. 01:04:35 I 01:04:35 also think they're 01:04:37 Was it 01:04:38 Kingston Lopa was hurting

01:04:39 that one? 01:04:40 So 01:04:40 tough, tough day, tough season so far for Cal. 01:04:43 Tosh 01:04:44 has an uphill battle moving forward. 01:04:46 Shall we close this thing out by talking about the AP Top 25? 01:04:49 Oh man, sure, of course. 01:04:51 Nobody's going to have any thoughts about that. 01:04:52 I'm sure. 01:04:53 So 01:04:54 here's what we did, okay? 01:04:55 Yeah.

01:04:55 Our plan here, for anyone wondering 01:04:58 how we do this, we copy paste the poll from the previous week into a Google Doc. 01:05:05 We use the little table thing at the bottom. 01:05:07 We can move the teams around. 01:05:09 Then we look at it, we go through it in groups of five, see how we feel about it. 01:05:15 We revise it like 18 different times. 01:05:17 Yeah. 01:05:18 This was the hardest week we've had yet. 01:05:20 Yeah. 01:05:21 It 01:05:21 was the hardest week because we're starting to get into this 01:05:25 part of the season now

01:05:27 where it becomes increasingly more difficult to compare teams that played each other. 01:05:33 Sure. 01:05:33 So, head-to-head is a data point. 01:05:35 Totally agree. 01:05:36 As we've said, it's an important data point. 01:05:38 And if teams are close together, it should obviously be used just as it was used a year ago when they gave Miami the Noto over Notre Dame. 01:05:45 Right. 01:05:46 And I'm speaking as a Notre Dame fan. 01:05:48 I agree with the way that they handled that, even if the logic was a little bit weird to get there. 01:05:53 But 01:05:53 we struggled with some of these. 01:05:55 So we're going to flash it up there.

01:05:56 This is not. 01:05:58 Yet 01:05:59 etched in stone. 01:06:00 Okay. 01:06:01 But this is what we decided to go with for the stream tonight. 01:06:04 You want to put it up 01:06:05 on the screen? 01:06:05 Yeah. 01:06:05 Okay. 01:06:06 There 01:06:06 it is in all of its glory. 01:06:08 So here's what we did.

01:06:10 We kept the top five pretty much intact. 01:06:14 Alabama's win, we thought, was damn impressive. 01:06:18 So we gave them a bump up 01:06:20 above Indiana. 01:06:21 Yeah. 01:06:22 They comfortably beat Rutgers. 01:06:24 And I think in the top five, obviously, we mentioned Ohio State. 01:06:26 Texas was on bye. 01:06:27 We mentioned Notre Dame. 01:06:28 We mentioned Miami. 01:06:29 Georgia did. 01:06:30 The score was a little bit deceiving when their win over Vanderbilt, but

01:06:34 a win is a win is a win. 01:06:36 And a lot of the underlying numbers have been 01:06:38 off the charts. 01:06:38 They've been terrific for Georgia, but they have not played a real top-tier, complete team. 01:06:44 It's. 01:06:44 Week five, whatever, and all due respect, but Oklahoma is not that complete top-tier team. 01:06:48 Yeah. 01:06:49 So we flipped. 01:06:50 Well, I guess we didn't flip. 01:06:51 We had Bama at eight. 01:06:52 We. 01:06:53 Bumped Bama up above Indiana.

01:06:55 That could change. 01:06:56 Yes. 01:06:57 We have Ole Miss 01:06:57 at eight. 01:06:58 We have LSU at nine. 01:06:59 Texas Tech, BYU, and Utah. 01:07:03 10, 11, 12. 01:07:06 We struggled with. 01:07:07 Yes. 01:07:08 It was 01:07:09 a 01:07:10 not super impressive night for either Texas Tech, nor was it.

01:07:13 And this is, I think, the old Texas Tech logo. 01:07:16 We should update it eventually, though. 01:07:18 I'm kinda mixed on the simplified Texas tech logo. 01:07:20 I don't know if you have thoughts. 01:07:21 Maybe that's a 01:07:22 I don't know. 01:07:22 It it it looks like a 01:07:24 like an outline. 01:07:25 Apologies to anyone in the 01:07:27 Comms department at Texas Tech. 01:07:28 If you want to 01:07:29 send me a link,

01:07:30 we'll make sure we 01:07:31 fix it. 01:07:32 I think 01:07:32 the bevels have a little more character, but I can be convinced. 01:07:36 Texas Tech nor Texas Tech nor BYU looked especially impressive tonight. 01:07:40 And look, it's BYU, I believe, was on the road against TCU. 01:07:44 They lose LJ Martin, but it was not at all an emphatic win. 01:07:49 And TCU 01:07:50 for 01:07:50 like 01:07:51 their 01:07:51 their

01:07:52 fans are kind of hating the season thus far. 01:07:54 It has not been a fun time to be a Frog 01:07:56 fan. 01:07:56 But 01:07:56 like 01:07:57 if you have the three teams directly behind them or in their area in Utah, Oklahoma State and Oregon on bye and they both win on the road, 01:08:06 It's tough to say, like, man, it wasn't that impressive. 01:08:08 These three teams who were taking naps during the game should be. 01:08:11 So 01:08:11 I couldn't get there. 01:08:12 I don't know how you feel about that. 01:08:13 Well, no, and we struggle with that too, because

01:08:16 I think we felt fairly confident about the top nine. 01:08:19 Right. 01:08:20 But once we got to ten with tech, eleven with BYU, twelve with Utah, and then as you said, we had 01:08:26 a run of teams here that had a little bit of a buy. 01:08:28 Right. 01:08:29 We we sort of just didn't know what to handle or how to handle that. 01:08:31 We didn't want to drop. 01:08:32 We didn't 01:08:32 punish them. 01:08:33 They won. 01:08:33 Right. 01:08:34 But at the same time, I do think there are

01:08:36 If you made me choose some 01:08:38 shits below them, that 01:08:40 if they played head-to-head, they might win. 01:08:42 But look, these are rankings. 01:08:44 There's the weird nature 01:08:45 when you get into 15, 16, 17 now, which is like. 01:08:48 The most confusing part, like you can fully throw away your ranking last week and start over every week. 01:08:54 We thought about re-racking, by the way. 01:08:56 We did think about re-racking. 01:08:57 We 01:08:57 thought about completely tearing up what we had a week ago. 01:09:00 and

01:09:01 just completely re-racking, starting from scratch, just like, let's consider this a brand new checkpoint in the season. 01:09:08 Right. 01:09:08 First week of October, 01:09:10 let's start anew. 01:09:11 But 01:09:12 we struggle with that too. 01:09:13 That was kind of harder. 01:09:14 Well, like, because 01:09:15 there's two different things you can weigh, right? 01:09:16 You can weigh. 01:09:17 Not just who a team has played and how they've played against them, but you're just like, okay, has this team played Power Four teams? 01:09:24 Do they look like what

01:09:26 We think a playoff team, a top five team, a top 10, top 12 team 01:09:29 should look like against what we perceive to be inferior quality or ability. 01:09:34 And so. 01:09:35 For instance, like we mentioned, 01:09:37 Georgia's played Oklahoma. 01:09:38 Miami hasn't played an overwhelmingly daunting schedule, but they've looked dominant against the schedule, other than playing, you know, the ACC goes through Winston-Salem. 01:09:46 We can all agree 01:09:47 against Wake Forest. 01:09:48 Wake Forest scored whatever it was, 20 points against them. 01:09:51 But you get into this area where like 01:09:53 Mississippi State 01:09:55 looked good against

01:09:57 You know, Missouri at times, they won that game, and it didn't happen a long time ago. 01:10:01 Hence, Mississippi State is ahead of Missouri. 01:10:03 Missouri was like on the 01:10:05 border of being ranked, unranked last week at 25. 01:10:08 We didn't have them ranked last week. 01:10:09 They beat a team that jumped crazy high after their own win in Florida 01:10:14 in a super impressive way. 01:10:16 And so 01:10:16 now they're up ten spots, nine ten spots. 01:10:19 That seems pretty good. 01:10:21 That seems like Mizzou 01:10:22 has momentum on their side and could continue to make a move if they continue to look like this.

01:10:26 We have Florida behind Mizzou 01:10:27 because they lost that game emphatically. 01:10:29 We've got three teams that are ordered by. 01:10:32 How they 01:10:33 played against one another. 01:10:34 But it's not just one or the other, it's recently, 01:10:37 last 01:10:37 week. 01:10:38 Yeah, it'd be different if it were like 10 weeks ago. 01:10:41 Right. 01:10:41 But given that this is a very recent data point, we had to use it. 01:10:44 But then what do you do with Florida and Ole Miss?

01:10:47 Right? 01:10:47 Well, Mrs. 01:10:48 I'm by, so we don't have 01:10:49 their 01:10:49 sword point. 01:10:50 This was the debate. 01:10:51 Right. 01:10:51 This was one of the debates. 01:10:53 When I said that we're getting to that point in the season where it gets really hard. 01:10:57 to use some of those data points, I think in the manner that many out there on the Internet, as I've referred to them, the resume absolutists would prefer. 01:11:07 This is one instance where I think we struggled with it. 01:11:10 What I think made it easy for us was the manner in which Florida lost this

01:11:13 game. 01:11:14 Sure. 01:11:15 They got smoked. 01:11:16 Right. 01:11:16 This is not a close. 01:11:17 But they also smashed Ole Miss 01:11:19 at least late. 01:11:20 The game was back and forth. 01:11:21 But they put a ton of points on Ole Miss, and then they're now in with. 01:11:25 Each having one loss, they're now nine spots beneath them. 01:11:30 I don't have a good answer to that question. 01:11:31 I don't either, and I suspect that's.

01:11:33 One area where we'll get some pushback. 01:11:35 Sure, of course. 01:11:36 But that comes with the territory. 01:11:37 So if you have different thoughts, like I say, don't be a dick. 01:11:40 Right. 01:11:40 Solverball at gmail. 01:11:42 com. 01:11:42 Let us know in the comments 01:11:43 your thoughts on this. 01:11:44 Like 01:11:44 it's not etched in stone yet, but this is. 01:11:46 Florida's still one game away, though.

01:11:47 One performance. 01:11:49 They're just one game away. 01:11:50 UCLA at 8, Duke at 01:11:53 19. 01:11:54 Tennessee, we did drop a little bit. 01:11:55 Tennessee, 01:11:56 I didn't think 01:11:57 looked all 01:11:59 made the quarterback change. 01:12:00 It was defensive 01:12:01 running 01:12:01 Obviously, George McIntyre once again.

01:12:03 I don't know the status if it's a health thing and performance thing for Faison Brandon, but he was not throwing well in this game whatsoever against the Auburn 01:12:10 defense. 01:12:11 So it should be noted that Deshaun Bishop was an absolute dude in this one, going for over 200, but 01:12:16 not a dominant performance from Tennessee. 01:12:18 And 01:12:19 look, if their 01:12:20 signature win this year, I don't know, maybe it's Auburn, but like. 01:12:23 The Georgia tech notion of being like 01:12:26 a huge data point isn't incredible at this moment. 01:12:28 So, hard to say with Tennessee. 01:12:30 And then on the back end of the top 25, I mean, 01:12:34 this is where we'll get some of the wake people chiming in.

01:12:36 Sure. 01:12:37 But 01:12:37 we've got SC, we've got Iowa, who we dropped, but 01:12:40 still figured they were good enough to be ranked. 01:12:42 Kept Boise 01:12:43 in there. 01:12:44 We 01:12:44 moved Northwestern. 01:12:46 They were one of two new teams that entered our top twenty-five 01:12:49 along with Mizzou. 01:12:50 And we also kept Nebraska in at twenty five. 01:12:53 So just missing out,

01:12:55 Wake Forest 01:12:56 talked about Wake, talked about Wisconsin, obviously 01:13:00 talked about Pitt in 01:13:01 Minnesota. 01:13:03 We dropped out of our poll, SMU in Houston, neither of which we thought was all that impressive. 01:13:09 This is what makes it difficult.

01:13:11 We've got six teams that I think we could all make a pretty strong case for being ranked, even like North Dakota State. 01:13:18 Yeah. 01:13:18 I don't know what the status is of that Cincinnati game. 01:13:20 You can make a case for JMU. 01:13:22 So there's a grouping of teams that. 01:13:24 You know, you could make a very easy case for all of those teams to be ranked, but this is just

01:13:29 Cincinnati's being shut out, by the way, in the second half. 01:13:32 That would make it a little bit easier. 01:13:33 It'd be one fewer teams, but nonetheless, you get the point. 01:13:36 it is hard to figure out, all right, who do we prefer here? 01:13:39 And this has changed from week in 01:13:42 from week to week. 01:13:43 So 01:13:44 the Florida 01:13:45 Ole Miss thing is where I want to hear from Arvor Ballerhood. 01:13:47 And let us know your thoughts. 01:13:49 We can go in the comments now. 01:13:50 We have f

01:13:51 like 01:13:51 dozens upon dozens of people now. 01:13:58 If you re racket, 01:14:00 where do you put Ole Miss? 01:14:03 Because we had Ole Miss in the top ten, we had Florida above them by nature of the win. 01:14:08 So if we want to keep that order of operations 01:14:11 , 01:14:11 We're going to have to move Ole Miss down, put Ole Miss didn't play. 01:14:14 Right. 01:14:15 Right. 01:14:15 So we got 01:14:16 to punish him for not playing.

01:14:18 We're going to move him down to like 01:14:20 17 01:14:20 just so we could put Florida at 16. 01:14:22 That 01:14:23 was sort of the 01:14:25 weird spot we found ourselves in. 01:14:27 Right. 01:14:27 I'm good with the vibes only ranking, but 01:14:30 it's hard to like do that week to week. 01:14:34 You incorporate a resume, you incorporate what you think 01:14:37 the quality of different teams are, and you go from there. 01:14:40 Like, if you want to make a case on Wake, right?

01:14:43 Well, 01:14:43 the Louisville thing has hurt Wake a little bit. 01:14:47 And 01:14:47 all of the teams listed in front of us would probably demolish Stanford. 01:14:51 Maybe not in the 01:14:52 specific way that Wake did. 01:14:54 But 01:14:55 there's a good chance that a lot of these teams would lay some pretty heavy lumber against the Cardinal. 01:15:00 No pun intended with their tree mascot. 01:15:03 James Madison, North Dakota State, Wisconsin. 01:15:06 I'll accept any case, right? 01:15:08 There's only so many spots here.

01:15:09 If you want to knock SC out, if you want to knock Iowa out, SC 01:15:12 won a game. 01:15:13 It's hard to knock a team out unless you just truly feel like they are. 01:15:18 Not anywhere deserving 01:15:20 in this one. 01:15:21 Duke didn't play, UCLA didn't play. 01:15:24 And with Northwestern at 24. 01:15:27 What they did against, I think people would have Indiana in the top 10 generally. 01:15:31 So they took a top 10 team to the wire. 01:15:33 They beat up on Penn State 01:15:35 and they beat up, not that Colorado's good. 01:15:37 Which, by the way, that's a whole different conversation

01:15:39 with where Colorado is and their 01:15:41 go-go offense. 01:15:43 Oh, man. 01:15:45 An all-time great interception. 01:15:46 It should be pointed out. 01:15:47 From 01:15:48 Colorado today. 01:15:49 It was. 01:15:49 It really was.

01:15:50 So, as people are listening to this and as we wind down, drop in the comments who should get your dude alerts. 01:15:55 I did intend on sending out the tweet, but I apparently scheduled it for tomorrow. 01:15:59 I wrote down some dudes here.

01:16:00 So 01:16:00 here, here, 01:16:01 let's see where the. 01:16:02 Yeah, you got some dudes right here. 01:16:04 You want to play the sound? 01:16:05 I can play the sound. 01:16:06 Let's do it, Dan. 01:16:09 Who did you 01:16:10 get? 01:16:10 I put down Jeremiah Smith, although he's sort of just retired, obviously. 01:16:13 Jaheem White with North Texas went for a ton in their 01:16:16 Thursday night game.

01:16:18 Caleb Komalafe 01:16:19 for Northwestern. 01:16:20 I mean, it was him and a couple other backs who really went off. 01:16:23 Aidan Chiles made plays. 01:16:24 Deshaun Bishop, I mentioned. 01:16:25 Gio Lopez at Wake Forest. 01:16:26 Teigen. 01:16:27 Pelletier and Nathan Bailey. 01:16:30 Oh, okay. 01:16:30 So 01:16:31 Harvard. 01:16:31 So we're going to do it.

01:16:32 Connection. 01:16:33 We need to talk about this, okay? 01:16:36 And this was a crazy finish. 01:16:39 Yes. 01:16:40 The Crimson trailed 01:16:42 Colgate by a 17 to 14 margin with one play left. 01:16:47 Yeah. 01:16:47 Hail Mary time, right? 01:16:48 Of course. 01:16:50 Guy catches the Hail Mary. 01:16:51 Didn't quite reach the end zone. 01:16:53 Nate Bailey is trailing.

01:16:55 Big, big tight end, like 6'6 01:16:57 tight end. 01:16:57 Big guy. 01:16:58 Big dude. 01:16:58 Mm-hmm. 01:16:59 Nate Bailey is trailing him 01:17:01 about six feet behind him, looking for the lateral. 01:17:04 Has the wherewithal to be in the right place at the right time 01:17:09 Big dude catches it, flips it back. 01:17:12 Gets his hands loose, right? 01:17:13 Because he's being tackled from 01:17:15 the bottom.

01:17:16 It's like he's. 01:17:17 He's wrestling and someone's going for a takedown. 01:17:20 Correct. 01:17:20 Right. 01:17:21 He somehow frees his hands enough 01:17:23 that he's able to get the backwards lateral to Nate Bailey, who runs in. 01:17:28 Front left pylon, walk-off win 01:17:31 20 to 17. 01:17:32 Harvard knocks off a really tough Colgate squad. 01:17:35 Yes. 01:17:36 And I 01:17:37 actually did see, I forget who posted it.

01:17:39 This was not something that I was able to search. 01:17:42 My memory banks for. 01:17:43 Apparently, Randy Moss did this, but it was before halftime. 01:17:47 It was not a game-winning situation. 01:17:49 He caught a Hail Mary, I think it was from Dante Culpeper. 01:17:53 I don't remember who it was against, and had the wherewithal to flip it to a dude who was able to successfully run it in. 01:18:00 Like it was like at the eight-yard line or something like that. 01:18:02 Remember how good he was? 01:18:04 There's my take. 01:18:05 I don't think Randy Moss was that good. 01:18:06 No, 01:18:07 Randy Moss is the best ever.

01:18:09 He's incredible. 01:18:10 But yes, for Harvard to do this, it. 01:18:12 It was a 01:18:13 big deal. 01:18:13 I also have down here Austin Simmons and Jamal Roberts. 01:18:16 That backfield was just ridiculous for Mizzou. 01:18:18 And I mentioned 01:18:18 when Austin Simmons can hang back in the pocket and hit guys in stride. 01:18:24 Yes. 01:18:25 He's got an absolute howlitzer of an arm. 01:18:28 Yes. 01:18:29 Baseball background, obviously.

01:18:31 He has a Tecmo Super Bowl arm. 01:18:33 Yeah. 01:18:33 Like when they would launch. 01:18:34 A ball that would go just 10 feet above, 01:18:37 look like it would go 10 feet 01:18:39 and without any loft. 01:18:40 He doesn't loft. 01:18:41 There's no touch 01:18:42 to the Austin Simmons. 01:18:43 Every pass is with maximum force. 01:18:45 We've seen this over the course of our time doing this. 01:18:47 Confident, tight, spiral, but yeah, Jamal Roberts.

01:18:49 Tremendous balance in this one. 01:18:50 And then I have down here 01:18:52 Braden Atkinson and Jesse Legree, that combo for Oregon State. 01:18:56 Not the biggest competition with the fire defensive coordinator midstream. 01:19:00 But 01:19:00 yeah, those guys, once again, absolutely killer. 01:19:03 Yeah, I mean, the other one that I throw out here is 01:19:06 Aidan Flora 01:19:07 from Iowa State, who accounted for five touchdowns but had two trick play 01:19:11 passes. 01:19:12 and 01:19:13 three

01:19:13 rushing scores. 01:19:15 He might be like the ninth best Big 12 quarterback in this moment. 01:19:18 When you look around the conference, Aidan Flora might be that guy. 01:19:22 We've got a Xavier Griffin reference here in the comments. 01:19:25 Yeah, we got a bunch that came through. 01:19:27 Thank you to the Verballerhood 01:19:29 for chiming in. 01:19:29 Yes. 01:19:30 All right, Dan Rubinstein. 01:19:32 I think that pretty much does it for this evening. 01:19:35 As I said at the very top of this episode. 01:19:38 Our plan is to do the mega cut.

01:19:41 Do you have breaking news, by the way? 01:19:42 Do you have that sound? 01:19:43 I'm putting you on the spot. 01:19:44 I can pull it up here. 01:19:45 Do we actually have breaking news? 01:19:47 To me, yes. 01:19:48 Okay, go ahead. 01:19:53 We have breaking 01:19:54 news. 01:19:56 Texas AM did not lose in embarrassing position 01:19:59 today. 01:20:00 They didn't.

01:20:00 Just wanted to make sure we put that out into the universe for somebody that didn't pay attention. 01:20:05 They demolished Arkansas. 01:20:06 They did demolish Arkansas. 01:20:07 It's a rough year for Arkansas. 01:20:08 Yeah. 01:20:09 Yeah, that's all. 01:20:10 All right. 01:20:10 Salverba at gmail. 01:20:12 com, as always, is the email. 01:20:14 Please go on out to verballers. 01:20:16 com 01:20:17 if you are interested.

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01:21:05 This is true. 01:21:06 You 01:21:06 do have a fall wedding. 01:21:08 Yeah. 01:21:08 You will be going to the fall wedding. 01:21:10 Yeah. 01:21:11 I will be doing something 01:21:13 similar to what I did a year ago. 01:21:14 Not my own wedding. 01:21:15 Not yours. 01:21:16 Happily married. 01:21:17 I intend to stay so.

01:21:18 Yeah. 01:21:18 I'm going to figure something out. 01:21:20 The show will look for sure 01:21:21 a little bit different. 01:21:23 It probably won't be as entertaining without this fellow next to me, but we're going to do our part. 01:21:28 I'm going to need the help of the Verballer Horde in order to make it through. 01:21:32 Because it is a banger of a week. 01:21:34 We're going to have Bama, Georgia, a bunch of games. 01:21:36 We'll talk about those on Monday. 01:21:37 So, thank you for everybody's support out there. 01:21:41 Please stop on back. 01:21:43 Want to have you out here?

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