LSU Looks Dangerous, Ole Miss-Louisville Fireworks & Week 1 Takeaways — Power Cleaned Transcript
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Ty Hildenbrandt 00:18 Dan Rubenstein, and to the millions upon millions of Verballers listening around the globe.
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Ty Hildenbrandt 00:25 Happy Labor Day.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:26 For us, it is a true Labor Day.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:28 We're putting in the labor, talking through everything that transpired on Saturday night that we did not get to on the Saturday night live stream.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:37 things that maybe we didn't have a chance to talk enough about on that stream that went on earlier the day on Saturday and I guess really throughout the course of
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:48 Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:50 And of course, we're going to give you a little bit of a preview.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:52 Talk about what's to come here in a very, very big Week 2 of college football.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:58 Welcome back, good sir.
Ty Hildenbrandt 00:59 How are you?
Dan Rubenstein 01:00 Good, I was gonna say this is us putting in the unseen hours, but I guess this is seen in 1080p.
Dan Rubenstein 01:06 So I guess we we prepare beforehand and after, but yes
Dan Rubenstein 01:09 Uh, all is well.
Dan Rubenstein 01:10 We are still technically in the middle of Week 1 since we're recording this before SMU-Florida State, so that's why there is not SMU-Florida State content on here.
Dan Rubenstein 01:20 Perhaps we will do something if something bonkers happens.
Dan Rubenstein 01:23 Um
Dan Rubenstein 01:24 uh in that game shortly thereafter.
Dan Rubenstein 01:27 But, uh, otherwise, we have a lot of data.
Dan Rubenstein 01:30 We have a lot to arm ourselves with.
Dan Rubenstein 01:32 From an emotional standpoint, after having watched what, the Apple Cup, Ole Miss-Louisville, go down to the wire.
Dan Rubenstein 01:39 Uh, we have additional thoughts on yeah, the the Saturday night action, uh you know, the UCLA-Cal game, Clemson-LSU, I think we want to dive into, take a big
Dan Rubenstein 01:47 bigger bite out of than we were able to do Saturday night, late night.
Dan Rubenstein 01:51 And then of course, what it's the Shamrock Series, Ty?
Dan Rubenstein 01:58 like a salami chub wrapped in red uh with a Culver's logo and Notre Dame with like the gothic navy look.
Dan Rubenstein 02:05 I it's all fine.
Ty Hildenbrandt 02:06 We'll get to this. It's cool.
Dan Rubenstein 02:09 But
Dan Rubenstein 02:10 Uh we also have a packed Week 2 that we want to at least take a glimpse of from this little Week 1 foxhole.
Dan Rubenstein 02:18 So I'm I'm ready to roll.
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Ty Hildenbrandt 03:13 So let's do this.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:14 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:15 There are a bunch of games that we did not get to.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:18 I know that we jotted down a few tidbits that we want to discuss, just sort of rapid-fire notebook style things that caught our eye from Week 1.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:27 But relative to the bigger games, either the ones that took place on Sunday night or some of the ones that took place later in the day.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:36 on Saturday.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:37 Where does your eye go first?
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:39 Which of those matchups do we need to pay a little bit more attention to and dissect a little bit deeper?
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:44 Because um I mean I look there's a whole list of games
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:47 It's only the two of us going through these.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:49 So we couldn't cover all of them when we do the midnight stream, nor do we really want to.
Ty Hildenbrandt 03:54 Where do we need to put a little bit more focus?
Dan Rubenstein 03:57 I think we could start with Clemson-LSU a little more thoroughly, just because that game was pushback.
Dan Rubenstein 04:03 We would have discussed it more thoroughly Saturday night, but the the lightning cells in the area, is that the correct terminology?
Dan Rubenstein 04:09 push that game back to like a nine forty Eastern time kick.
Dan Rubenstein 04:12 Uh we talked about it a little bit, but I went back and rewatched it uh more than I could Saturday night.
Dan Rubenstein 04:18 And man, whatever LSU weakness there is, or whatever LSU didn't quite show a ton of against Clemson, largely because they didn't need to, or largely because Clemson wasn't able to exploit
Dan Rubenstein 04:31 Whatever gap in LSU's game plan or strengths, whatever, man did it not matter against Clemson.
Dan Rubenstein 04:38 Um
Dan Rubenstein 04:39 I was so impressed given how many new pieces were coming together with at least ostensibly the pressure of playing a team with a profile like Clemson's.
Dan Rubenstein 04:50 With the amount of attention, even the week leading up to it, because of all the off-field stuff, for LSU on both sides of the ball to play in such an organized frenzy, if that at all makes sense
Dan Rubenstein 05:04 I came away so happy for LSU fans because I know what that feeling can be like.
Dan Rubenstein 05:10 When you're not sure exactly what you're gonna get, you're a little bit optimistic.
Dan Rubenstein 05:14 But to see what we knew would be a really good LSU defense fly around and overwhelm Clemson on offense, uh, and really just dominate both of the lines of scrimmage, to see LSU run the ball, to see Sam Leavitt throw himself around like
Dan Rubenstein 05:28 Jaxson Dart two point oh, which I guess makes sense given that the the new connection to Lane Kiffin.
Dan Rubenstein 05:34 I don't know what this season holds for LSU.
Dan Rubenstein 05:37 I suspect I know a little bit of what the season holds in front of us for Clemson, which might be a lot of the same, unfortunately.
Dan Rubenstein 05:44 Um but
Dan Rubenstein 05:46 I I don't know if I were an LSU fan how I'd be able to contain myself in this moment.
Dan Rubenstein 05:51 And anything I'd point to in terms of like what you'd want to see more of from LSU
Dan Rubenstein 05:54 Like even though it's Lane Kiffin and even though he likes scoring a ton of points, they weren't exactly trying to test Clemson downfield a ton.
Dan Rubenstein 06:03 They didn't need to.
Dan Rubenstein 06:05 Obviously they were able to score in a multitude of different ways.
Dan Rubenstein 06:08 Uh I just
Dan Rubenstein 06:11 I I I want to take a second and say, man, whatever LSU is, and obviously you're not what you are in Week 1 and week seven or whatever, and they have LSU or they have Ole Miss in a couple weeks.
Dan Rubenstein 06:21 I just freaking out a little bit if I'm an LSU fan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:25 This was as close to a clean bill of health on the LSU side as you're gonna get.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:29 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:30 And the fact that you get it in Week 1
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:34 Given a roster with a ton of new pieces, new coaching staff for the most part, right?
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:39 I I say for the most part because they retain Blake Baker on the defensive side of the ball, but it's an entirely new cast of characters.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:48 309 rushing yards, which is notable.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:52 Brand new.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:53 This team is brand new.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:54 And 11 of 16 on third downs.
Ty Hildenbrandt 06:59 You're splitting hairs if you're trying to find criticism.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:02 51 points.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:02 They won 51 to 10.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:04 And like you said, it wasn't like they were purposely trying to pour it on.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:07 You're really splitting hairs looking at things like defensive depth.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:11 You know, like when they emptied the bench, then Clemson got a little bit more going on offense, but okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:17 Sam Leavitt threw an opening interception, a little bit behind his receiver.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:22 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:24 There isn't really a butt that I can find here.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:27 There just isn't.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:28 B-U-T.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:30 And you know Ty loves looking for those butts.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:32 You know I do.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:33 But I can't really find one here on the Clemson or on the LSU side for sure.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:38 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:39 They were incredible.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:41 They looked incredible and they were dominant.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:43 To your point.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:45 They were dominant in the trenches.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:47 And that is my biggest takeaway on the Clemson side of this, which is definitely a longer conversation.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:53 Clemson got bullied, Dan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:55 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:55 Clemson got bullied.
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:56 I think it was a Jordan Leggett
Ty Hildenbrandt 07:58 One of the former Clemson tight ends, former Clemson players who had given commentary out in the media, he commented that this was the softest Clemson team he had seen in years.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:10 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:11 This is on the heels of an offseason where they were trying to get tougher out there in the public sphere talking about how they're trying to get tougher on offense, how they're trying to get tougher on defense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:21 They used the portal a little bit on defense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:24 It may end up there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:26 It was not there opening night against LSU.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:30 They did not look like they belonged on the same field.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:33 It is not just they were a quarterback away or a running game away or um
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:39 uh a safety away from winning or this game having a different complexion.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:43 This was a full-on bottoming out from Clemson
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:46 And I don't know how you recover from this.
Ty Hildenbrandt 08:48 You know, if this was the test, the early season test for Dabo building this thing back up, getting back to aspiring to these ACC, maybe playoff heights.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:00 This is a horrible proof of concept.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:03 They got outgained 644 to 145, Dan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:07 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:08 My math tells me that's almost 500 yards.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:11 They had minus four rushing yards at halftime, one of 13 on third downs.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:17 They punted 10 times.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:18 Where was your drive chart for Clemson?
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:22 Dude.
Dan Rubenstein 09:22 Well, I didn't have the full game drives by the time we were playing.
Dan Rubenstein 09:26 My apologies.
Dan Rubenstein 09:26 My apologies.
Dan Rubenstein 09:27 By the way, they put up a stat during the game, I think during the uh the kickoff starting the second half.
Dan Rubenstein 09:33 I think
Dan Rubenstein 09:34 First half, first downs, LSU dominated something like 21 to 1.
Dan Rubenstein 09:39 It's uh it's inexcusable for Clemson, Dan.
Dan Rubenstein 09:42 It's inexcusable.
Dan Rubenstein 09:44 The um well look the answer is clear for Clemson that Dabo just needs to hire more former players and family members to help run this team.
Dan Rubenstein 09:52 By the way, the Clemson fans, because I do like checking in from an emotional standpoint
Dan Rubenstein 09:56 The reaction was all existential.
Ty Hildenbrandt 09:57 Oh, yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 09:58 The reaction was all just like Dabo's collecting a check.
Dan Rubenstein 10:01 Uh, the buyouts around sixty million dollars.
Dan Rubenstein 10:04 You know, if he had any integrity, he would step away.
Dan Rubenstein 10:07 Um, somebody compared, you know
Dan Rubenstein 10:10 the the result to not really knowing what LSU is because it was as if they played an FCS team in the opening week and the in how much fight
Dan Rubenstein 10:18 Clemson had, by the way, uh FCS since Dabo likes the acronyms first Clemson Saturday.
Dan Rubenstein 10:26 That's what you're getting when you get to play Clemson Week 1, you're getting an FCS team.
Dan Rubenstein 10:30 Um
Dan Rubenstein 10:32 It's you know at a certain point everybody knows what this feels like.
Dan Rubenstein 10:37 Right?
Dan Rubenstein 10:37 You as a Notre Dame fan know what it feels like.
Dan Rubenstein 10:40 when, you know, the Charlie Weis era is winding down, the Ty Willingham era is winding down, the w the Mark Helfrich era for me is winding down, where you're just like
Dan Rubenstein 10:49 This isn't it.
Dan Rubenstein 10:51 It's hard to see this ever turning around.
Dan Rubenstein 10:53 How much longer of this can I take as a fan?
Dan Rubenstein 10:57 And every fan base at some point usually goes through it
Dan Rubenstein 11:02 I don't know if Ohio State has gone through it in a minute, but otherwise, and this is just Clemson's turn right now, it seems.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:11 The fact that they did not look like they physically belonged.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:15 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:15 Is the most troubling thing.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:17 Schemes, communication, timing, things of that nature will get better, inevitably.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:24 It doesn't matter who you are.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:25 but getting bullied off the lines of scrimmage the way that they did.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:29 That is that I think speaks more to the existential questions that I know are running rampant in the Clemson fan base.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:35 By the way, I'm not trying to pile on Clemson.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:37 I'm I'm I'm more than anything frustrated for them.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:40 And of course, you know the feeling.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:42 Yeah, I do.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:43 And because the lines are so bad, I don't know if we can even give an accurate depiction of what went down at quarterback.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:48 Between Christopher Vizzina and we did see some of Tait Reynolds, I we acknowledged on the mid on the uh live stream at midnight, excuse me.
Ty Hildenbrandt 11:56 that both of them to a degree looked overwhelmed, but they just had no time.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:00 The pressure was there the second that they snapped the ball.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:03 I don't know how you're supposed to accurately gauge how any of those guys did because they just could not go through their progressions.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:09 They did not have a second to do so.
Dan Rubenstein 12:11 Yep.
Dan Rubenstein 12:12 Totally, totally fair, totally true.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:15 All right.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:16 Well we'll see where this goes next.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:17 I mean, if this is going to be the way it persists in the Clemson sphere, for sure we're going to have much more
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:23 existential type conversations.
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:25 And the same is true on the LSU side, right?
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:28 Maybe not existential in a bad way, but what could this program be in the short term with all these new pieces and a new coach that
Ty Hildenbrandt 12:35 uh ha has only stoked the flames of being the dark side of college football, but 51 points is a pretty good way to uh cleanse the palate.
Dan Rubenstein 12:43 So we'll see.
Dan Rubenstein 12:44 As always, by the way, as always, you're not what you are in Week 1
Dan Rubenstein 12:48 Clemson has plenty of time to figure things out.
Dan Rubenstein 12:51 LSU now has the responsibility of sustaining with a new roster, especially on offense and a lot new, and we'll see if depth is tested at all.
Dan Rubenstein 12:59 But that's their challenge right now is sustain sustenance, sustaining.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:04 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:04 Sustenance and by the way, my final point on this.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:08 On the Clemson side, you lose Week 1 by 41 points to a team that I think we could make a pretty strong case at this point is going to be top 15 caliber all season long.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:19 Unless you run the table and win the ACC or finish 11 and 1 otherwise and don't make the championship game, you're out.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:26 That is a disqualifying loss in Week 1, and I hate to say it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:30 You would need a lot of help in front of you, but that's a disqualifying loss to lose in the manner that they did.
Dan Rubenstein 13:35 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 13:36 Okay, I'm I'm willing to wave off Week 1 to a certain extent.
Dan Rubenstein 13:39 We shall see what the rest of the season looks like.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:42 Speaking of 41 points, we had a pair of games that the winning team put up 41 points.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:48 Let's go to Ole Miss Ellis or uh Louis uh Louisville, excuse me.
Ty Hildenbrandt 13:55 4138, man.
Dan Rubenstein 13:56 What a game, huh?
Dan Rubenstein 13:57 It was great.
Dan Rubenstein 13:58 This was terrific.
Dan Rubenstein 13:59 You had all of the like Week 1 rust and slop on display, especially up front on the offensive lines at times, especially with the tackling at times.
Dan Rubenstein 14:10 But
Dan Rubenstein 14:11 In terms of getting a show in Week 1, to have the back and forth, this game we'll talk about UCLA-Cal as well, I think was tied twenty-four up early on in the fourth quarter.
Dan Rubenstein 14:19 But this one was especially fun because of a lot of the known quantities on both sides of the ball.
Dan Rubenstein 14:24 Like we're familiar with, you know, uh obviously the the coaching staff and Jeff Brahm at Louisville.
Dan Rubenstein 14:30 Now, because of Pete Golding taking over, we know him from the playoff and Trinidad Chambliss and new pieces on both sides of the ball for both of these teams.
Dan Rubenstein 14:38 This was like a good Stefon game, right?
Dan Rubenstein 14:40 From SNL.
Dan Rubenstein 14:40 Like this game had it all.
Dan Rubenstein 14:43 And was easily one of the best two or three TV shows of the weekend.
Ty Hildenbrandt 14:47 Oh, it was a great game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 14:48 It was a great game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 14:49 And both teams shook off some early rust to give us a fabulous second half.
Ty Hildenbrandt 14:54 It sucks that this game was going on at the exact same time as the Notre Dame game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 14:59 Although I will say the second half of no of the Notre Dame game was definitely something you could flip back to if you were watching this one or wanted to see how this one ended because Ole Miss needed the entire 60 minutes to put Louisville away.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:12 They played this one in Nashville.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:13 A 48-yard field goal at the gun gave all miss a 41-38 win.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:21 Sloppiness in the first half for sure, both from Trinidad Chambliss as well as Lincoln Kienholz, which we can get into.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:28 I think both sides of this one are right to point out that there was sloppiness there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:33 I think both sides of this are right to point out that this basically devolved into a track meet as we got into the second half of this game and there's a defensive conversation.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:43 But I just sort of came away in awe at how much fun this was to watch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:47 Like we didn't get a whole lot of games like this on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday.
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:53 The fact that we got a true shootout
Ty Hildenbrandt 15:55 A game that was a lot of fun that came down to the wire, a bunch of new pieces, a ton of contending storylines, perhaps ESPN getting paid
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:04 by the showing of Lincoln Kienholz's mother, which they did about 82 times in this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:10 Wearing a tube top?
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:11 Was that what it was?
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:12 I guess.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:14 Warm in Nashville.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:15 It's summertime.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:16 I get it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:16 Beside the point.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:17 They kept showing her.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:19 I hope she's doing well.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:20 I don't know why they did that, but Oh you don't?
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:24 You don't know why?
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:25 I okay, maybe I do.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:27 Write down some options.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:28 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:29 We'll talk about that later.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:30 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:31 Takeaways from this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 16:32 What mattered to you in this game?
Dan Rubenstein 16:34 Uh winning.
Dan Rubenstein 16:36 Winning matters, right?
Dan Rubenstein 16:37 Winning is a skill.
Dan Rubenstein 16:38 Uh Ole Miss was able to get it done at the end in a back and forth game.
Dan Rubenstein 16:41 Um
Dan Rubenstein 16:41 The pass rush was super interesting on both sides.
Dan Rubenstein 16:43 The tackle play was less than interesting on both sides at times.
Dan Rubenstein 16:48 But really it was the open field tackling where you're just like, look, if you can get the ball to anybody wearing a Louisville or Ole Miss uniform in the open field.
Dan Rubenstein 16:57 Ole Miss, though, you can expect a broken tackle or four.
Dan Rubenstein 17:02 And that's what was on display at times.
Dan Rubenstein 17:05 And these guys are going to improve.
Dan Rubenstein 17:07 Uh, the Ole Miss pass rush to me this year could be scary good.
Dan Rubenstein 17:12 Even with what they lost, there's so much speed on this team.
Dan Rubenstein 17:16 Their options
Dan Rubenstein 17:17 I I think they're going to be in an interesting place.
Dan Rubenstein 17:19 It's like Kam Franklin, uh, Blake Purchase, obviously, Echoles in the middle.
Dan Rubenstein 17:24 Like there's a lot there's a high ceiling for what Ole Miss might be able to do
Dan Rubenstein 17:27 to uh to hit quarterbacks before they can throw it to somebody who can run out in the open field.
Dan Rubenstein 17:32 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 17:32 Um Trinidad Chambless, as you mentioned, a little rusty to start, um, a little off, and obviously was made to pay for being off at a couple instances.
Dan Rubenstein 17:42 But
Dan Rubenstein 17:42 I mean, the pass to, I think it was Deuce Alexander who caught that just the go route and just completely torched the Louisville DB was a thing, it was absolute dime a thing of beauty, just perfectly rainbowed in.
Dan Rubenstein 17:53 Um
Dan Rubenstein 17:54 And then Lincoln Kienholz for having really played in no meaningful action in terms of regular season as the guy
Dan Rubenstein 18:02 I thought he settled in pretty nicely.
Dan Rubenstein 18:04 Can I say something about Dr.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:05 Kienholz?
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:06 Yeah, please.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:07 And I I know there is very pointed criticism of how he started this game.
Dan Rubenstein 18:11 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 18:12 I'd say that's right.
Dan Rubenstein 18:13 Settled in.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:13 Settled in is is the proper way to characterize it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:17 I think he's got juice, man.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:19 Same.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:20 I think he's got real juice.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:21 He gives them an element of mobility in that offense that we did see on display later.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:26 It seems as if he's got like that X factor to me, a little bit of a chip on his shoulder, a little bit of a wild card back there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:33 I had a couple people tweeting at him.
Dan Rubenstein 18:34 Say Ty a little bit of what?
Dan Rubenstein 18:35 A little bit of baker?
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:37 Other people were sending that to me.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:39 Yeah, of course.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:40 I was not sending that to them.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:42 And I don't even know if that's the right comparison, but there's yeah, there's an improvisation to his game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:47 that I think gives the Louisville offense a completely different dimension.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:51 I also thought they looked more physical than I expected.
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:54 You know, as I was watching that game because we do this
Ty Hildenbrandt 18:57 Subconsciously, when we're watching these non-conference games, especially games that involve the SEC or some of the top-tier teams in the Big Ten, there's always a question of physicality.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:08 Taking case in point, what we saw between LSU and Clemson, Clemson got blown off the ball.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:12 Clemson does not look like they're going to be able to match a bunch of teams physically.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:16 I thought LSU was right there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:18 Uh I thought Louisville was right there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:20 I keep getting these teams mixed up.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:21 I thought Louisville was right there with Ole Miss in this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:25 And that to me was a rather important takeaway, especially within the context of the ACC.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:30 You know, I don't know how many other AC teams are gonna be that physical.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:34 I really like that side of the game and then you combine that maybe they didn't run quite as well as I think they will against some of their other ACC competition, but you mix in Kienholz with that, provided he can throw, you give
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:45 that element of I guess confusion with respect to what you can do moving him around, option game, stuff like that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:52 It's just
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:54 I'm really encouraged by what we saw from Louisville.
Ty Hildenbrandt 19:57 What I would say though, and some of the criticism that I saw floating around that I think is is is right to point out, this was sort of another self-inflicted loss for them, wasn't it?
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:06 Agree.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:07 Yep.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:07 You know, they had nine penalties for 82 yards.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:10 They had a horrible rough in the kicker call after a missed field goal in the fourth quarter.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:15 Um
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:18 Again, they look good enough to win, but they just need to shore up a few things before they can fully get there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:24 Like the offensive line probably needs some work.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:27 The secondary was too porous.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:29 There are definitely aspects of this thing that need to get better, but um that's against a really good SEC team.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:35 What are they gonna do to I think a pretty good schedule in the ACC?
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:41 With a roster like this
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:42 And given what we saw to Clemson, I I feel pretty good about putting Louisville in that conversation to get to that game in Charlotte.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:51 We obviously at time of recording have not seen SMU yet.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:53 We'll see how they look on the road against Florida State.
Ty Hildenbrandt 20:56 But this I all in all, I thought a very encouraging performance from Louisville, even though they didn't get the dub.
Dan Rubenstein 21:01 Look, it the the second tier, because the single tier is occupied by one team in the ACC
Dan Rubenstein 21:07 Between Louisville, between Virginia, between maybe Pitt, if Mason Heinschel keeps throwing seven touchdown passes to seven different receivers, I'll assume that number is gonna come down.
Dan Rubenstein 21:17 Um
Dan Rubenstein 21:18 But, you know, whatever the ACC is this season, that grouping of three, four, five teams or whatever is gonna be fascinating, especially with Louisville's schedule.
Dan Rubenstein 21:26 They're 0-1.
Dan Rubenstein 21:27 And you can see if Lincoln Kienholz continues like this, if they're scoring basically 40 points with a very limited rushing attack.
Dan Rubenstein 21:36 Imagine what happens when Isaac Brown gets more, right?
Dan Rubenstein 21:39 Imagine when he eats a little bit more because Ole Miss did a terrific job of shutting down for the most part.
Dan Rubenstein 21:45 uh Isaac Brown and the rushing attack.
Dan Rubenstein 21:47 Lincoln Kienholz was able to find room as well.
Dan Rubenstein 21:49 But uh yeah, things are looking look, I don't win one, winning double digits is like, oh I they're just a like a TCB team right now.
Dan Rubenstein 21:57 You take care of business
Dan Rubenstein 21:58 From what we think we see, what we perceive their scheduled to be.
Dan Rubenstein 22:02 TCB, you know, taking care of business.
Dan Rubenstein 22:04 Thank you very much, Cosmo.
Dan Rubenstein 22:05 They're in a good spot and on the Ole Miss side
Dan Rubenstein 22:07 You're encouraged because this was a losable moment given the way this game shaped out and the the chaotic nature of you know some of the swings of this game, and they themselves didn't run the ball consistently.
Dan Rubenstein 22:18 And so now you can only imagine what Ole Miss's ceiling is like when, you know, the tackle play perhaps gets a little bit better, if the tackle play gets a little bit better, and they're able to run it a little bit more consistently.
Dan Rubenstein 22:29 But that's also credit to Louisville and the job they did up front.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:32 The other winning team scoring 41 points, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, 41-13 in Lambeau Field, squaring off against Wisconsin.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:41 Yes, it was the Shamrock Series, basically a color game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:44 I was not crazy about the uniforms.
Dan Rubenstein 22:46 But you got the rods and cones issue.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:48 I got the rods and cones issue.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:49 I was getting a headache trying to watch the bright red unis on the beautiful green turf of Lambeau Field.
Ty Hildenbrandt 22:57 That was tough for me to see, but um
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:00 A 28-point win was nice.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:03 I'll take that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:04 I have a lot of thoughts on this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:06 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:06 I will kick it to you first, though, because I can ramble until I'm blue in the face.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:11 High level takeaways from what we saw from both these sides.
Dan Rubenstein 23:14 I think we can just move on to the Apple Cup is actually my my takeaway here.
Dan Rubenstein 23:17 No.
Dan Rubenstein 23:19 My takeaway from this game.
Dan Rubenstein 23:21 Uh Notre Dame came out a little bit sluggish.
Dan Rubenstein 23:24 I was impressed with the fire that Wisconsin played with in the first half.
Dan Rubenstein 23:27 Now they had obviously a pretty significant self-inflicted wound with the uh
Dan Rubenstein 23:32 the the kickoff return fumble muff whatever.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:35 I don't think he was in bounds, by the way.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:37 I think they blew that call when I went through.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:39 No.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:40 I was I was texted with Mama H.
Dan Rubenstein 23:42 I was I think his he was bobbling as his toe was sliding out of it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:45 They blew that call, but
Ty Hildenbrandt 23:46 You know, I don't think in hindsight, probably doesn't matter, but it it was a critical juncture in the game that definitely broke some momentum.
Dan Rubenstein 23:55 Here's here's the good news, big picture.
Dan Rubenstein 23:57 Not just about this game, but about any game in Week 1
Dan Rubenstein 24:00 If your complaint isn't oh the the conference has a kind of a different clock than what everybody is seeing
Dan Rubenstein 24:08 It pales in comparison, right?
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:10 And issues the CYA statement, prepped it up via Canva, which I tweeted out.
Dan Rubenstein 24:15 We've got our own clock, guys.
Dan Rubenstein 24:17 Just trust us on this one.
Dan Rubenstein 24:20 Oh, we've got we've got our own thing going at uh conference HQ.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:25 So your zero is really our one.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:27 And you know, here's the thing, even if that's true.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:30 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:30 And I have no reason to think it's not.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:32 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:32 Even if that's true.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:34 That doesn't help.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:36 It doesn't help.
Ty Hildenbrandt 24:37 It doesn't help.
Dan Rubenstein 24:37 It makes it worse.
Dan Rubenstein 24:39 I apologize for this distraction when we're talking about Wisconsin-Notre Dame, but just more broadly speaking, you can have reasonable complaints about refereeing every week.
Dan Rubenstein 24:49 It's a thankless job.
Dan Rubenstein 24:50 It's very difficult to do.
Dan Rubenstein 24:51 It's made easier with replay.
Dan Rubenstein 24:53 But also, if your conference's uh line is we got we got some different numbers.
Dan Rubenstein 25:02 Um don't worry about them.
Dan Rubenstein 25:04 You just pay attention to what's on TV and even if it's true.
Dan Rubenstein 25:07 Anyway, we digress.
Dan Rubenstein 25:09 Um I thought Wisconsin played with fire, I mean in a good way, played with a good amount of juice.
Dan Rubenstein 25:15 Uh it's a talent thing to me at a certain point, and you knew that
Dan Rubenstein 25:20 The passing game probably wasn't going to do much against this Notre Dame defense and Notre Dame pass rush, although I I was heartened to see, you know, the the efforts and ceiling of Colton Joseph at times.
Dan Rubenstein 25:32 Uh made a great pass late.
Dan Rubenstein 25:33 I think it was it who was the the the DB?
Dan Rubenstein 25:36 Was it Jaden for Notre Dame?
Ty Hildenbrandt 25:38 Jayden Sanders, yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 25:39 Jayden Sanders, who got sort of turned around and slipped up by a double move
Dan Rubenstein 25:42 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 25:43 Happened a couple times in this game, by the way.
Dan Rubenstein 25:45 Yes.
Dan Rubenstein 25:45 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 25:46 Um, but is what the third corner for Notre Dame behind McKinney and Moore.
Dan Rubenstein 25:51 Um
Dan Rubenstein 25:53 I I I liked Wisconsin.
Dan Rubenstein 25:56 I I think they're gonna be clearly improved this year.
Dan Rubenstein 25:59 I don't know what they're going to be
Dan Rubenstein 26:01 able to do more of dramatically, and I don't think it's fair to appraise this new roster based on what they're able to do on a neutral field against a team that seems to be a legitimate national title contender.
Dan Rubenstein 26:12 Right.
Dan Rubenstein 26:12 But just the rhythm of this game
Dan Rubenstein 26:14 On the Notre Dame side, I thought the offense looked very apprehensive early for some reason that they were like, well, we don't want to show too much.
Dan Rubenstein 26:22 Like it was like kind of Ian Bookish on a couple levels that like you have CJ Carr
Dan Rubenstein 26:28 Let's let's take the Maserati out for a spin.
Dan Rubenstein 26:31 Let's see let's see what it can do on the open open highway.
Dan Rubenstein 26:34 Um that happened in the second half a little bit.
Dan Rubenstein 26:37 But yeah, they seemed apprehensive on offense.
Dan Rubenstein 26:39 They kept kind of running straight into the Wisconsin line early.
Dan Rubenstein 26:42 They were not able to get into much of a rhythm consistently on offense in the first half.
Dan Rubenstein 26:47 But the defense is nails.
Dan Rubenstein 26:49 It'll be nails all season long, especially against this schedule.
Dan Rubenstein 26:52 And you could just see that Wisconsin
Dan Rubenstein 26:56 at a certain point couldn't figure out what to do next in terms of getting the ball downfield.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:01 Yeah, I mean I think I think two things are true at once for Wisconsin.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:05 First off, I think it's undeniable.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:07 They've lost by 28 points
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:09 I think it's undeniable that this team looked way more credible.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:12 Way more credible.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:13 I think they're going to be far more competitive.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:15 I think they finally have a schedule now that will reward them for some of what
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:19 they did in the offseason try and make the roster better.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:21 And provided Colton Joseph and others can stay healthy, they're gonna have a better year.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:25 They're gonna have a better year.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:26 They were very competitive for the first thirty minutes of this game
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:29 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:29 The final score doesn't necessarily indicate that, but if you go back and watch, they were giving the Notre Dame offensive line some trouble.
Dan Rubenstein 27:35 Yeah, they forced a like a uh uh not a scoop-and-score, but the uh the sack, the strip sack that Notre Dame was able to recover early on.
Dan Rubenstein 27:42 Yeah
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:42 I mean they were they were heating up CJ pretty good, trying to bring pressure, trying to take the decision making out of his quiver and force him to make some check downs pretty early.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:52 And I thought they had some real success with that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 27:55 So that uh if you're a Wisconsin fan, I think that's the primary takeaway.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:00 Yes, there is a pretty significant gap between you and the truly elite, I guess, if Notre Dame is that, more elite.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:08 But, um to be more competitive, have a quarterback that I think gives you a little bit something, provided he stays healthy.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:15 That that I was a pretty obvious takeaway for me.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:18 The second though
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:20 Is that once Notre Dame adjusted in the second half, was constant in no counterpunch whatsoever.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:24 Right.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:25 They just had nothing.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:26 And that's when the reality check
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:28 on the Wisconsin side kicked in.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:30 They can make a top team uncomfortable.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:33 I don't know to what end they're capable of sustaining that level of discomfort for four quarters, if that makes sense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:41 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:42 I agree.
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:42 They got a long way to go, but I do think that the competitiveness we saw in the first half against teams that aren't as good as Notre Dame, that that will
Ty Hildenbrandt 28:51 That will serve them well.
Dan Rubenstein 28:53 By the way, in terms of where this defense is at, I really like the linebackers for the Wisconsin defense.
Dan Rubenstein 28:59 Yep.
Dan Rubenstein 28:59 I really like the pressure that the
Dan Rubenstein 29:01 the defensive line and what they were able to do against the run largely like they wore down, right?
Dan Rubenstein 29:05 They they wore down over the course of the game and Aneyas Williams was able to find lanes and I think is pretty good.
Dan Rubenstein 29:10 I think they're a step back from where they were at running back, at least in this moment from where they were last year.
Dan Rubenstein 29:15 But
Dan Rubenstein 29:16 Most teams weren't where Notre Dame was at running back last year.
Dan Rubenstein 29:18 No.
Dan Rubenstein 29:19 Um and I uh I'm curious look, all things considered, the Wisconsin defense
Dan Rubenstein 29:26 Essentially allowed 27 points, right?
Dan Rubenstein 29:28 That was the very short field touchdown for Notre Dame, right?
Dan Rubenstein 29:31 It was a sh it was a short field touchdown and a uh pick six.
Dan Rubenstein 29:36 So that's not on the defense for Wisconsin
Dan Rubenstein 29:39 And we'll see what they can do.
Dan Rubenstein 29:40 Also, by the way, shout out to I I looked this up, Sean West, the punter for Wisconsin.
Dan Rubenstein 29:45 Oh my gosh.
Dan Rubenstein 29:46 Maybe the punt of the year?
Dan Rubenstein 29:48 Might have been the punt of the millennium.
Ty Hildenbrandt 29:49 That was unbelievable.
Dan Rubenstein 29:50 Rolling out at like the three and a half inch yard line.
Dan Rubenstein 29:53 Just like stopping and rolling sideways.
Dan Rubenstein 29:56 Unbelievable.
Dan Rubenstein 29:56 A perfect coffin corner kick.
Dan Rubenstein 29:58 Did the, like, golf swing celebration afterwards.
Dan Rubenstein 30:01 And you know what?
Dan Rubenstein 30:01 I don't care if you're losing 93-nothing.
Dan Rubenstein 30:04 Doesn't matter.
Dan Rubenstein 30:05 If you're able to punt like that
Dan Rubenstein 30:06 And execute like that.
Dan Rubenstein 30:08 You celebrate however you want.
Dan Rubenstein 30:11 That is your moment.
Dan Rubenstein 30:13 And that I think that was in the first half, but just incredible moment for Wisconsin special teams.
Dan Rubenstein 30:17 So we tip our cap.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:19 Well we do.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:19 And on the Notre Dame side, look, I I think your analysis is spot on.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:24 I definitely was picking up an offensive line that seemed a bit out of sorts.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:30 saw some mistakes.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:31 They couldn't really run the ball with any rhythm in the first half of that game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:34 I don't know if that was the play calling.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:36 I don't know if that was the way that Wisconsin adjusted, but it it seemed as if they had trouble getting a push, at least initially
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:44 against this Wisconsin front, that's going to be something to chart moving forward because Freeman himself said it as he went in at halftime.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:52 They couldn't run the ball.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:53 It made it a little bit more difficult for them to play off of that run and then do other things with the offense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 30:59 Second half, we saw some adjustments.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:00 They got better at it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:01 But, um, you know, the running back question
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:04 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:04 Is not lost on anybody in the Notre Dame world or anybody that covers college football for that matter.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:09 You lose turf two first round running backs.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:11 It it's gonna take a little bit, I think, to figure out who can step up.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:14 But Aneyas Williams ended up scoring a couple touchdowns, finished with something like ninety yards.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:18 He's a very good back.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:20 I don't think he's Jeremiyah Love.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:23 I don't think he's Jadarian Price.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:25 I think Notre Dame has a wealth of running backs that are very versatile.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:29 We saw that a bit in the passing game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:31 Nolan James Jr.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:32 was pretty active in the passing game, had a later touchdown in this one as well.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:36 How they assemble those guys.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:39 and get something out of the running game will be a really interesting thing thing to see before they get to like week seven when they go on the road to BYU, which is really the next like checkpoint, I think, in the Notre Dame season.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:50 Um, CJ Carr is CJ Carr, again, would still love to see him establish more of a rapport with someone outside of Jordan Faison who was very good.
Ty Hildenbrandt 31:59 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:06 And a screen pass early for six yards that went to Jaden Greathouse.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:10 I just I would like to see a little bit more variety from the wideouts.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:13 Didn't see it yet.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:15 I suspect in the next couple weeks we're gonna find out a little bit more about what they've got out wide.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:18 But, um
Dan Rubenstein 32:19 At least in weekends, especially as Notre Dame gets ready to play Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford, Navy, Boston College, Syracuse.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:35 Sorry.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:37 41 to 13 was your final Notre Dame moves to 1-0.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:43 Other game here that we'll highlight then let's go rapid fire through some of our other observations.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:47 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 32:47 You wanted to talk about the Apple Cup.
Dan Rubenstein 32:49 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 32:49 Look, our first look at Washington, who I think both of us recognize as somebody who can win a bunch in the Big Ten this season.
Dan Rubenstein 32:56 There are certainly questions I think
Dan Rubenstein 32:57 more on offense than defense.
Dan Rubenstein 32:59 The defense looks pretty good right now.
Dan Rubenstein 33:02 Honestly, it's it's Week 1, it's Washington State, whatever, but that's emotional spot.
Dan Rubenstein 33:06 And I think what they have up front in that front seven should be quite good.
Dan Rubenstein 33:10 We'll see how the secondary develops, especially at corner over the course of the season, but there is experience there.
Dan Rubenstein 33:15 Uh
Dan Rubenstein 33:16 It was a 17-10 game late.
Dan Rubenstein 33:19 It was kind of tight.
Dan Rubenstein 33:21 I think Washington left a bunch out on the field.
Dan Rubenstein 33:23 Uh offensively, I think there's a little bit to be desired in terms of
Dan Rubenstein 33:27 the playmakers around Demond Williams and just the the offensive structure and the ability to finish drives.
Dan Rubenstein 33:34 But
Dan Rubenstein 33:36 If Demond Williams can continue to be this kind of dual threat and he had to do a bunch with his legs, um, I think his timing was a little bit off, his rhythm with receivers maybe a little bit off, but
Dan Rubenstein 33:48 I winning is better than losing in an emotional spot.
Dan Rubenstein 33:52 I I think they are one of those teams who will shake off a good amount of
Dan Rubenstein 33:56 Week 1 and offseason rust as we move forward.
Dan Rubenstein 33:59 I was expecting a little bit more Week 1.
Dan Rubenstein 34:02 Good for them for not losing this game.
Dan Rubenstein 34:05 That was kind of tight late.
Dan Rubenstein 34:07 Um taking advantage and being opportunistic on both sides of the ball.
Dan Rubenstein 34:11 But it wouldn't have been my favorite night's sleep ever if I were Jedd Fisch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:15 No, I I so you dubb Dogpound website the author of the piece this morning, Collin O'Meara.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:23 He jotted down an anecdote, I guess he was at the game, and turned to a fan in the third quarter as a UW fan and said
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:32 This would be the most disappointing, assuming at the time, because it was very much still in doubt in the third quarter.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:37 But he said, assuming that we hold on to win here, it'll be the most disappointed I've ever felt after winning the Apple Cup.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:43 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:44 And I think that's I think that encapsulates all this pretty well because this is a really sloppy showing from Washington.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:50 Again, Week 1 you qualify it
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:52 12 penalties, 130 yards.
Ty Hildenbrandt 34:55 They were repeatedly extending Wazzu drives with late hits.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:00 They had an unsportsman-like penalty.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:02 There was a targeting foul.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:03 in this one as well.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:05 The offense was also ineffective enough, let's say, to give Wazzu a chance.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:12 You know, they gave him turnovers.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:15 Um
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:16 Wazzu did gave Washington turnovers to work with.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:19 Couple picks, yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:20 And they were able to hold Wazzu to like 0 for 11 on third down.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:24 So you see those numbers right out of the shoot, and you're like, well, geez, they
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:28 This game should have been close.
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:30 This game probably should have been over much earlier, but they, for whatever reason, because of sloppiness, because they weren't able to get a whole lot going down the field, um, they they were
Ty Hildenbrandt 35:39 W giving Wazzu a chance to come back and and nip 'em here.
Dan Rubenstein 35:43 Yeah, Wazzu didn't score until the fourth quarter.
Dan Rubenstein 35:46 Right.
Dan Rubenstein 35:46 Um this game
Dan Rubenstein 35:48 Probably in week four is, and by the way, all credit to Wazzu, who has been through a lot in terms of the coaching changes and conference changes and hung in there, made enough plays, especially on defense, to stay in this game.
Dan Rubenstein 36:01 But
Dan Rubenstein 36:02 a a more disciplined version with this exact same roster and coaching staff for Washington's probably winning this game twenty eight to three.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:08 Yeah, I mean look, it th they
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:11 They won because they're more talented, because their defense was very good, because they won the turnover margin.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:17 And
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:19 I don't think the performance will be confused as a super polished showing by a top 20 caliber team.
Intro Voice 36:27 Right.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:27 And the penalties, they absolutely, like you mentioned with discipline, they absolutely need to clean that up.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:33 You'll take the win though in a rivalry spot.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:35 And I thought Wazzu, despite the fact that they couldn't really get all that much going on offense, just the fact that they were hanging around, as you said, they've been through a lot.
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:44 There's a huge amount of turnover this offseason
Ty Hildenbrandt 36:47 Rivalry Week 1 on the road in a loud place like UW, like I I actually came away encouraged, even though there wasn't a whole lot to really hang your hat on offensively.
Dan Rubenstein 36:57 They're home all month.
Dan Rubenstein 36:58 Uh, the Minnesota game should be challenging, I think, at the end of the month before they travel to USC and have Iowa the week after that.
Dan Rubenstein 37:05 I think on a short week as well.
Dan Rubenstein 37:07 So they do have time.
Dan Rubenstein 37:08 to sort of get their bearings, get into a little bit more of a rhythm and get more comfortable.
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:14 Dan I want to go around college football real quick and I want you to give me some anecdotes and tell me what they mean to you, okay?
Audio Drop 37:21 What does this mean?
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:24 It's a double rainbow guy, remember him?
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:26 Of course I do.
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:27 I think he passed away. R.I.P.
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:28 Rest in peace.
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:30 Where do you want to go first?
Dan Rubenstein 37:32 Uh, the little like the dots, the bullet points.
Dan Rubenstein 37:34 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 37:35 Cal UCLA was super fun.
Ty Hildenbrandt 37:37 45-24 UCLA pulled away in the second half, ended up winning this game.
Dan Rubenstein 37:43 A sloppy performance from UCLA at times.
Dan Rubenstein 37:45 They themselves, I believe, were pretty heavily penalized as well.
Dan Rubenstein 37:48 in the the shadow of the Washington conversation, but they ran very, very well.
Dan Rubenstein 37:54 Uh, they played with a good amount of juice on defense, which it's been a minute.
Dan Rubenstein 37:59 And so obviously a lot of the new players, new coaching staff, paying dividends.
Dan Rubenstein 38:03 So to go on the road, sold-out Cal crowd, uh good amount of emotion in that matchup.
Dan Rubenstein 38:08 And to have Nico make the plays, both with his legs and with his arm, that he was able to make to withstand some of the better of what Cal was able to do, especially through the air, to turn JKS over a couple of times.
Dan Rubenstein 38:19 Uh I came away very impressed with UCLA given how much is new there and how much needed to come together quickly against what I think will be a you know judged to be a pretty good opponent in Cal by the end of the season.
Dan Rubenstein 38:30 Um
Dan Rubenstein 38:31 I think if you're a Bruin fan, you are just you slept well Saturday night.
Dan Rubenstein 38:36 You stayed up maybe a little bit later.
Dan Rubenstein 38:38 You slept well.
Dan Rubenstein 38:39 There's a lot to be encouraged by.
Dan Rubenstein 38:41 uh from Week 1 from UCLA.
Dan Rubenstein 38:43 I still think they're going to take some noticeable lumps in year one in the Big Ten.
Dan Rubenstein 38:48 But otherwise, in what was looked to be maybe as a fifty-fifty game, given everything new for UCLA,
Dan Rubenstein 38:56 Thrilled with how that went.
Dan Rubenstein 38:57 On the Cal side, look, they're there in the fourth quarter.
Dan Rubenstein 39:00 It was mistakes, it was inability to run the ball at times, and it was a defense that really struggled in the open field as well.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:07 Three touchdowns for Wayne Knight.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:09 Hello, Newman.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:10 Very excited to see that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:12 And yeah, I I don't need to unpack this further.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:15 We did see the very clear
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:18 Rushing oriented identity that Bob slash Robert Edward Chesney.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:24 Bobby C
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:25 Was bringing to Westwood, yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:27 Run the ball and then defensively, yeah, created havocs.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:29 They punished mistakes.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:31 This was a really good showing for them, especially in the second half.
Dan Rubenstein 39:34 And a lot to clean up in a three touchdown win.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:37 That yeah, absolutely.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:39 Yeah, the why what I was gonna say is the one thing that I really liked is how they finished.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:43 21 unanswered in the fourth quarter put the game on ice
Dan Rubenstein 39:46 Yeah, absolutely.
Dan Rubenstein 39:47 That would that was the team that was better prepared to finish.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:50 I want to shout out to Mississippi State for a second.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:55 Mississippi State won 62 to 13 over ULM.
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:58 Whatever, right?
Ty Hildenbrandt 39:59 Whatever.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:01 Not so much a whatever if you're a Mississippi State fan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:04 Because Kamario Taylor
Dan Rubenstein 40:06 I don't think we mentioned him as a dude.
Dan Rubenstein 40:09 Oh man, you're doing Kamario just like Mario Cristobal, aren't you?
Dan Rubenstein 40:13 Oh my god, now adding syllables.
Dan Rubenstein 40:16 Oh god.
Dan Rubenstein 40:17 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:18 Now I guess we're going to be able to do that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:22 762 yards, but Kamario
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:28 I don't know why this is so funny.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:30 This is how we say that word here.
Dan Rubenstein 40:31 I no, I'm more disappointed that I did not anticipate this.
Dan Rubenstein 40:34 Continue.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:36 354 passing yards, four passing touchdowns.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:40 He had another 59 rushing and a fifth total touchdown on the ground.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:48 Granted, it is ULM.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:50 Sure, great.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:52 762 yards is still seven hundred and sixty-two yards.
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:56 And, um
Ty Hildenbrandt 40:59 The fact that they look that good at quarterback, I think, makes them plucky as hell.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:03 They've been plucky as hell.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:05 I hope so.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:07 So if he can actually end up being
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:10 This guy throughout the course of the SEC season, that could make for some really interesting matchups.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:15 Not saying it will happen, but I thought it was a banner showing from him in Week 1.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:19 I was really impressed by what they put out there.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:23 Those are video game pinball numbers.
Dan Rubenstein 41:25 Certainly.
Dan Rubenstein 41:26 Look, this what you want to see from Mississippi State is much more going to be about what they're able to do in terms of getting off the field in an expedited fashion on defense
Dan Rubenstein 41:36 and not shooting themselves in the foot, figuring out where they are in the trenches.
Dan Rubenstein 41:41 But yeah, look, if you're a Mississippi State fan, you haven't had a lot to hang your hat on recently.
Dan Rubenstein 41:46 And so if you're setting records and you're putting out a fun product on the field in Week 1
Dan Rubenstein 41:50 Yeah, it's terrific.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:52 You should be thrilled.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:53 The other SEC mention that I have here kind of in this section, just real quick as we're as we're buzzing through, Florida put up 66 points.
Ty Hildenbrandt 41:59 They won 66 to 21 over FAU.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:02 I believe we mentioned this just in passing on the on the live stream, but we didn't have a chance to fully unpack it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:10 Jaden Baugh is a dude.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:12 He did get a dude alert mention.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:14 I want to mention it again.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:16 He looked awesome.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:17 He had a crazy jump cut, uh just like a hard cut to the right down by the goal line and he walked into the end zone.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:23 I don't know if you saw the highlights of that one.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:24 I did
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:25 Jaden Baugh is a full-on dude, 160, three touchdowns on just 14 carries.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:30 Aaron Philo threw for three touchdowns and looked really, really good.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:35 Their offense had 624 yards
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:37 The important question here for me and why this matters, it is not a matter of can they beat FAU for game one, Week 1, new regime.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:46 Like we knew they were going to win this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:48 They were a pretty heavy favorite.
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:49 That is not the question at all
Ty Hildenbrandt 42:51 The question for me is Jon Sumrall immediately coming in and the offense looking more organized and a hell of a lot better.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:00 It was a very, very
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:02 Big offseason for questioning what Florida could be on offense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:06 New coordinator, new quarterback.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:08 I happen to like the roster retention.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:10 I like that this they had, you know, as many stars as they did coming back.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:14 But I think we have a big provisional yes on whether or not the Florida offense is going to be able to match or exceed what we saw a year ago, and that's exciting.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:26 If nothing more, they looked very organized.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:28 and very solid in this win against FAU.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:31 So I came away encouraged.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:33 There will be much more difficult opponents to follow here for the Florida Gators.
Ty Hildenbrandt 43:36 But Week 1, the opening stanza was it gives you a lot to build on and be excited about
Dan Rubenstein 43:42 Agree.
Dan Rubenstein 43:43 Absolutely agree.
Dan Rubenstein 43:44 A matchup we didn't really discuss at all is in another year this probably goes differently for this program, but good for Nebraska for pulling away from Ohio.
Dan Rubenstein 43:52 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 43:53 When that was a game in the second half, I think it was a a one score game in the second half at one time and they were like down early and couldn't figure out
Dan Rubenstein 44:00 Defensively what Ohio was doing.
Dan Rubenstein 44:02 They were running straight at him and getting chunky runs against this Nebraska defense.
Dan Rubenstein 44:06 Came away encouraged at least by
Dan Rubenstein 44:08 The upside of what this offense can be with Anthony Colandrea, who you will see used both for his arm and his legs, you know, in those, you know, third and fourth scramble type moments.
Dan Rubenstein 44:18 Um, there is something there for Nebraska.
Dan Rubenstein 44:21 Don't love that
Dan Rubenstein 44:22 that game was as close as it was, even though Ohio's a quality program, but they've been going through their own coaching issues and changes.
Dan Rubenstein 44:29 So I
Dan Rubenstein 44:30 The the final score doesn't tell the full story, but that was another team.
Dan Rubenstein 44:33 If you're gonna talk about how UCLA finished and turning, you know, interceptions into touchdowns, they finished strong.
Ty Hildenbrandt 44:39 500 523 yards, close to 250 rushing, no turnovers, and I want to call out something that you mentioned to me when we were watching this game earlier in the day.
Ty Hildenbrandt 44:50 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 44:51 Because you sent me a message and you're like
Ty Hildenbrandt 44:53 Colandrea makes this team a lot more fun to watch than Dylan Rayola, which I thought was kind of telling.
Dan Rubenstein 44:58 Yeah, there's he's just much more interesting than Dylan Rayola, yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 45:01 I don't know if he's he's not as talented, you know, just in terms of like the pure arm talent, the physical nature of Rayola, but like
Dan Rubenstein 45:07 winning football games, being like a leader of guys on an offense, I I like Colandrea.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:12 W being willing to throw the ball more than ten yards down the field.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:15 Exactly right.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:16 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:16 You'll take that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:17 So nothing if not interesting.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:19 Yep.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:20 What else?
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:20 What else you got?
Dan Rubenstein 45:22 Uh around the spot.
Dan Rubenstein 45:23 I mean, there just weren't that many games between competitive teams in Week 1.
Dan Rubenstein 45:27 Um I got a couple.
Dan Rubenstein 45:29 I mean I mean Michigan State we mentioned a little bit night before
Dan Rubenstein 45:33 Um what do you have?
Dan Rubenstein 45:35 I have Arizona State.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:37 Yeah, label lumber.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:38 Arizona State won in resounding fashion, but Cutter Boley with six touchdowns in this game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:44 Um they may have their answer at quarterback.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:48 They may have their answer quarterback.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:50 Now we will find out much more Week 2 on the road, which we'll talk about in a second, college station against Texas AM.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:56 But, um I thought he looked pretty good.
Ty Hildenbrandt 45:59 Virginia Tech, I know we mentioned that Virginia Tech put up 73 points, but um Virginia Tech fans have to feel good about how organized they looked.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:10 That's always what I'm looking for when you've got a roster that is basically brand new, new coaching staff, doesn't matter who you're playing.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:17 We saw plenty of teams go out there and look disorganized.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:20 That was not so much the case.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:21 For Virginia Tech.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:22 Granted, VMI, qualifier, but um Ethan Grunkemeyer looked pretty good, all things considered.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:29 And
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:30 This was the kind of debut that you wanted if you were a Virginia Tech fan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:33 Everyone's been so excited about James Franklin and breathing new life into the program.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:37 They got some, for sure.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:39 73 to 3.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:41 in their opening game against VMI.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:43 That I thought was notable.
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:44 How about Northwestern?
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:46 How about Northwestern?
Ty Hildenbrandt 46:47 I mean that was it was like a 17-12 game late.
Dan Rubenstein 46:51 Um
Dan Rubenstein 46:51 But they they did finish.
Dan Rubenstein 46:53 They did score 30 plus.
Dan Rubenstein 46:54 Aidan Chiles did make plays.
Dan Rubenstein 46:56 The defense did get stops.
Dan Rubenstein 46:58 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 46:58 All against an FCS team.
Dan Rubenstein 47:00 Granted an excellent FCS program in the Jackrabbits of S of South Dakota State.
Dan Rubenstein 47:05 But uh
Dan Rubenstein 47:06 Again, you'd you'd rather have this than being in the headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:10 I mean, if Aidan Chiles is efficient, if Northwestern can actually score in the thirties in more games this season
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:21 That probably changes the expectation for him to a degree.
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:25 You know, that was one of the jokes we had in the preseason.
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:28 How much are they going to score?
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:30 I thought that was notable when we call them out because, you know, they're trying to build something.
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:34 They're gonna be opening that new stadium.
Ty Hildenbrandt 47:36 Um, what else do we got here?
Dan Rubenstein 47:39 Uh, the Citadel beat Charlotte in three overtimes, ran straight through them at times.
Dan Rubenstein 47:44 A lot of running, a lot of mistakes, a lot of back and forth.
Dan Rubenstein 47:47 Charlotte might just be the place where promising coaches go to
Dan Rubenstein 47:52 be sad?
Dan Rubenstein 47:54 Biff Pogey and Will Healy and now Tim Albin, like, I don't know, man.
Dan Rubenstein 47:59 It's a long season.
Dan Rubenstein 47:59 You can get better.
Dan Rubenstein 48:01 You can't lose that game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:03 The other one that I wanted to call out was Indiana.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:05 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:06 Because I saw we got a comment about this on one of the platforms.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:10 Somebody was like, you made it this far into the episode.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:12 You didn't talk about the defending champs.
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Ty Hildenbrandt 48:39 Oh my god.
Dan Rubenstein 48:40 So you're you're turning that criticism into a sales pitch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 48:42 Okay.
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Ty Hildenbrandt 49:00 So we can't watch everything.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:01 We can't pay attention to everything on a Saturday.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:04 You wouldn't want us to go through all the games.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:05 It would be a five-hour show.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:07 That's not fun for anybody.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:09 So I didn't get a chance to talk about the Indiana game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:12 Indiana, though, looked incredible.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:15 Indiana, 52.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:17 The 16 over North Texas.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:20 It took a little bit to get going, but Josh Hoover ended up going 13 of 16 for 231 and four touchdowns and no turnovers in his first Indiana start.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:29 Played through a bloody nose after he had a face back.
Dan Rubenstein 49:33 Yeah, I was gonna say on a brutal, like not even just a face back.
Dan Rubenstein 49:36 It was like twisted around his head.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:37 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:38 Definitely had the face of the warrior.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:40 You'll take it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:41 Yep.
Dan Rubenstein 49:41 Mm-hmm.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:42 I think the big takeaway on the Indiana side, again, as if it needed any further mention, the portal additions came in and immediately looked very good, including Turbo Richard.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:55 Bunch of other guys here that we can call out.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:57 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:57 I mean they didn't run like crazy in the city.
Ty Hildenbrandt 49:59 They didn't run like crazy.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:00 I'm talking useful.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:02 I just want to see I just want to see crumbs.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:05 against a team like a North Texas.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:07 I don't need you to come out there and look like a machine yet.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:10 But I think to that point, Indiana approved here in Week 1.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:14 Definitely a speed bump playing North Texas.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:17 The machine is still probably the machine.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:20 So um I was encouraged.
Dan Rubenstein 50:23 We'll know soon enough.
Dan Rubenstein 50:24 Uh yeah, Charlie Becker went up about 14 feet to catch a touchdown pass.
Dan Rubenstein 50:29 That was great.
Dan Rubenstein 50:30 Josh Hoover made some terrific throws.
Dan Rubenstein 50:31 Nick Marsh, not really a factor.
Dan Rubenstein 50:33 He did have a touchdown, but I don't think he had twenty yards receiving in this.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:36 Did you see the touchdown though?
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:37 Um no, he's ridiculous.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:38 I mean, reaching behind his body.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:41 Yes.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:41 Back shoulder throw kind of crailed it with one arm to haul in that first touchdown for Josh Hoover.
Ty Hildenbrandt 50:46 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 50:46 I mean They didn't need Nick Marsh to be ridiculous.
Dan Rubenstein 50:49 Nick Marsh, Nick Marsh to be ridiculous in this game.
Dan Rubenstein 50:52 I just personally want to see more because he's a fun football player.
Dan Rubenstein 50:55 And so he only had a couple catches for, you know, sixteen or seventeen yards.
Dan Rubenstein 50:59 But yeah, if we can see him really emerge, I imagine we will at times this year.
Dan Rubenstein 51:04 That'd be great for this offense.
Dan Rubenstein 51:05 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 51:06 Wouldn't able to run the ball.
Dan Rubenstein 51:07 You're nitpicking.
Dan Rubenstein 51:07 They were a monster.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:08 The the running game and to an extent, I guess, the defense were probably less convincing than the final score.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:14 Like they had some penalties
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:15 They gotta clean some stuff up.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:17 They had some injuries.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:18 I think it was AJ Harris.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:21 Kobe Barton, who am I forgetting?
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:23 Um Jamari Sharp, another one.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:26 Some of those guys left with injuries, but
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:29 Um, friend who called out the Indiana mention or lack of Indiana mention.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:35 This one's for you, pal.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:36 Thank you.
Dan Rubenstein 51:36 Well, look, the good news is they have like five more games against teams that they're just going to figure out who they are against before oh you know I think it's Ohio State is their first like true big matchup.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:48 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:49 All right, um, here's what we got ahead in Week 2.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:55 Into that crystal ball here, okay?
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:57 Please.
Ty Hildenbrandt 51:58 Week 2 is a biggie.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:00 So for everybody that tweeted in, for everybody that emailed in, solidverbal@gmail.com, by the way, talking about the slate of games in Week 1 and what should we watch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:10 Why is it not as good as we want it to be?
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:12 Week 2 has a lot for you, and I don't care who you're a fan of.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:16 Not just games that feature name brand teams, but I think games that have real meaning attached to them.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:24 Which is really all you want.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:25 That gives you a reason to watch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:27 I've got a list of I can't read through all these games.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:30 It's one of those weeks.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:32 I want to ask you though about Oregon Oklahoma State.
Dan Rubenstein 52:35 Okay.
Dan Rubenstein 52:36 Early kick, right?
Dan Rubenstein 52:37 Early kick.
Dan Rubenstein 52:37 Eleven a.m.
Dan Rubenstein 52:38 Yep.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:38 Early kick.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:40 I want to ask you what Oregon and what Oklahoma State need to prove in this one.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:45 Because it feels to me like there are real stakes on both sides of it.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:47 Coming at it from different perspectives, clearly.
Ty Hildenbrandt 52:51 But both teams feel like they're under pressure to show a little bit more, certainly on the Oklahoma State side, show a little bit more than what we saw in Week 1.
Dan Rubenstein 52:59 I'm I'm a little bit higher on Oregon than I was in the the shadow of that game.
Dan Rubenstein 53:03 I rewatched a chunk of the game.
Dan Rubenstein 53:05 They're they're gonna be just fine this year.
Dan Rubenstein 53:06 They're gonna clean up what they need to clean up on the offensive line.
Dan Rubenstein 53:09 They're gonna open up bigger holes.
Dan Rubenstein 53:10 uh for the run game.
Dan Rubenstein 53:11 Um they're gonna be fine.
Dan Rubenstein 53:13 The defensive line was very, very good when it needed to be at the end of the game.
Dan Rubenstein 53:16 Whatever.
Dan Rubenstein 53:17 I I don't think Oregon has a ton to prove against Oklahoma State, personally.
Dan Rubenstein 53:20 Like I think they're gonna be so much stronger on both lines of scrimmage.
Dan Rubenstein 53:24 Um Oklahoma State will be improved, I think.
Dan Rubenstein 53:28 I hope where they were against Tulsa.
Dan Rubenstein 53:30 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 53:31 I think it would be disappointing if Oregon did not absolutely obliterate Oklahoma State.
Dan Rubenstein 53:37 And I think Oklahoma State will show things at times.
Dan Rubenstein 53:39 There's there's good skill, there's great skill potentially for Oklahoma State.
Dan Rubenstein 53:43 I don't think this is the moment for it yet.
Dan Rubenstein 53:45 I don't think you are judging Oklahoma State by what they can do.
Dan Rubenstein 53:49 Maybe they were looking past Tulsa.
Dan Rubenstein 53:50 Maybe Oregon's been circled in highlighter and sharpie, whatever.
Dan Rubenstein 53:54 And they weren't taking it seriously, but they were on the road.
Dan Rubenstein 53:56 This is their first game, their first time to show out um under a new coach, new quarterback, everything that's new in Stillwater.
Dan Rubenstein 54:04 I they just Oklahoma State needs to look more together and more ready to compete.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:08 22 and a half points right now is the point spread in favor of your
Dan Rubenstein 54:13 Look, I I gave the points last week going against a cardinal rule of mine where it's like if a team early on has a huge spread against a quality team and hasn't proven anything in this young season
Dan Rubenstein 54:25 just to err on the side of like let's at least see it first before we're just automatically giving those points.
Dan Rubenstein 54:30 Um I feel a little bit better about this line than the the 20 plus against Boise State for Oregon.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:37 They should be fine.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:39 Oklahoma scoring off against Michigan.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:41 Have you seen the point spread for this one?
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:44 I have not.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:45 If I had to guess week, okay
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:49 And bear in mind, bear in mind that Vegas isn't necessarily reactive or as reactive as we might be in the shadow of a Week 1 game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 54:59 Where would you put that point spread?
Dan Rubenstein 55:01 And we're saying Michigan will probably not necessarily get the do-over moments that we are perceiving.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:08 I don't know what the status of the hidden clock will be in Ann Arbor this weekend, but yes, let's assume as much.
Dan Rubenstein 55:15 My guess is Oklahoma minus six and a half.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:21 It opened at Oklahoma minus four and a half.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:24 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:24 It's since gone up to around six.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:26 I think at time of recording it might be five and a half.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:29 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:30 That's gonna feel low to a lot of people
Dan Rubenstein 55:32 When you first asked me, I thought eight and a half, and then I brought it down because you are right that Vegas doesn't freak out.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:38 They don't.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:39 They don't.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:40 I'm curious to see how this one goes for a whole multitude of reasons.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:44 The quote of note as we record this earlier in the day on Monday, Austin Meek from The Athletic.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:55 Quoted Kyle Whittingham on Bryce Underwood.
Ty Hildenbrandt 55:59 Quote, he's our quarterback right now.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:02 It's not something that's infinite.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:06 I it is there's nothing controversial about that.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:09 There isn't.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:09 Now, notably, your backup is freshman Tommy Carr, the younger brother of CJ Carr.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:15 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:15 Tommy Carr looked pretty good in the spring.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:18 There was some buzz on Tommy Carr.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:21 I don't know what it takes to pull someone like a Bryce Underwood, who obviously has a bunch of acclaim and Michigan's invested in him.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:29 But that was not a banner showing that we saw in Week 1 against uh Western Michigan, say the least.
Dan Rubenstein 56:35 So it's got not have
Dan Rubenstein 56:38 They have a Herbstreit as well, I believe.
Dan Rubenstein 56:41 A plu uh a person or a human Herbstreit.
Dan Rubenstein 56:44 A Herbstreit, a human Herbstreit, a human one without a merch store, I don't think.
Dan Rubenstein 56:47 Okay.
Dan Rubenstein 56:48 Um
Dan Rubenstein 56:48 But yeah, behind Bryce Underwood is a lot of uh unproven practice potential.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:54 So yeah, Michigan got something to prove.
Ty Hildenbrandt 56:56 Oklahoma looked incredible in their first game, but um this will be a much stiffer test.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:03 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:03 Um, two SEC teams on the road.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:05 We got Bama on the road at Kentucky.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:08 We've got Tennessee on the road at Georgia Tech.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:11 I think there are stakes certainly on both sides of that Tennessee game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:16 Tennessee looked really good.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:17 Faizon Brandon looked really good in his Week 1.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:21 Georgia Tech and Alberto Mendoza.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:22 Alberto Mendoza looked okay, but Georgia Georgia Tech needs to show more offense.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:27 Otherwise they're gonna get bulldozed in this one against Tennessee.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:29 Yep.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:30 And then on the Bama-Kentucky front, nice little early opportunity for Will Stein to make folks uncomfortable in the SEC.
Ty Hildenbrandt 57:39 We'll see.
Dan Rubenstein 57:40 Yeah, I mean, nothing to lose against Alabama.
Dan Rubenstein 57:43 Right.
Dan Rubenstein 57:43 Alabama has all of the pressure on it to uh to look more complete.
Dan Rubenstein 57:48 I mean they looked terrific in Week 1.
Dan Rubenstein 57:50 Um
Dan Rubenstein 57:51 And you can't even say like, oh yeah, Kentucky's one of those programs, right?
Dan Rubenstein 57:54 They're a landmine.
Dan Rubenstein 57:55 This is new coach.
Dan Rubenstein 57:56 This is new everything, pretty much.
Dan Rubenstein 57:58 So we'll see.
Dan Rubenstein 57:59 But yeah, a good opportunity for Kentucky to just play loose and see what they have.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:03 Did I mention Ohio State, Texas, Dan?
Dan Rubenstein 58:06 Ohio State.
Dan Rubenstein 58:06 That's now?
Dan Rubenstein 58:07 That's happening?
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:08 Week 2, yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:09 Okay.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:10 Obvious implications with this one.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:13 Both teams have ridiculous schedules
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:16 So whoever comes away, the victor, probably gets a leg up.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:20 A, they'll have the best win of the early part of the season.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:24 That part goes without saying.
Dan Rubenstein 58:26 Other than the Citadel, continue.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:27 Other than the Citadel.
Dan Rubenstein 58:28 Yeah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:29 Otherwise, though, as both teams embark upon what should be a really tough sea a tough season because of the schedule
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:36 Um, this would be a nice one to have in the back pocket when it comes to playoff time.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:41 Huge.
Ty Hildenbrandt 58:42 Yeah, and we'll talk about a lot of open questions.
Dan Rubenstein 58:44 We're gonna talk a lot of open.
Dan Rubenstein 58:45 We'll be previewing it in a little bit.
Dan Rubenstein 58:46 But yes, a ton of open questions in this game.
Dan Rubenstein 58:49 The environment should be absolutely raucous.
Dan Rubenstein 58:51 Hopefully it's not as warm for the fans in attendance for this huge one.
Dan Rubenstein 58:56 This should be enormous.
Dan Rubenstein 58:57 Cannot wait.
Dan Rubenstein 58:58 So many questions.
Dan Rubenstein 58:59 Excited for answers.
Dan Rubenstein 59:00 And neither one of these teams, believe it or not.
Dan Rubenstein 59:04 our finished products after Texas takes down Texas State and Ohio State takes down what ball state.
Dan Rubenstein 59:09 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 59:10 Yeah.
Dan Rubenstein 59:10 So we should judge them accordingly and cannot wait to watch.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:16 Just some other ones here that I'll call out very quickly, very quickly, just because I want to give people a glimpse as to
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:24 What's coming in Week 2?
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:26 We've got Arizona State on the road at Texas AM.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:28 I mentioned that one earlier.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:30 We've also got Texas Tech on the road in Corvallis against Oregon State.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:33 I thought Oregon State looked frisky.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:41 Texas Tech on the road.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:42 We've got the Cy-Hawk game, Iowa State, Iowa.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:45 We've got Arkansas and Utah.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:47 Interesting early test for two new coaches.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:50 We've got the Mizzou Kansas rivalry game.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:53 We've got Arizona BYU, Memphis against Boise.
Ty Hildenbrandt 59:58 A ton of other games here that I probably won't have to do.
Dan Rubenstein 01:00:07 Maryland taking on the monster that is UConn under Jason Candle, who just demolished Lafayette, correct?
Dan Rubenstein 01:00:13 Correct.
Dan Rubenstein 01:00:15 There's a good amount here.
Ty Hildenbrandt 01:00:16 I'm excited.
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Ty Hildenbrandt 01:01:50 Dan enjoy the rest of your labor day.
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